Yorkshire Water Broke My Toilet

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sevenhills wrote: »

I have noticed a water hammer noise when next door turn their water on.

You don't live next door to me do you ? :rotfl:

Ruski

Inlet valves are all different in their 'closing' procedures - I think it just so happens that the inlet valve they've fitted is more abrupt in in closing mechanism than the previous one.

Ask them to fit a shock arrestor, or if they refuse, fit one yourself (IYKWIM)

HTH

Russ

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Ruski wrote: »

Inlet valves are all different in their 'closing' procedures - I think it just so happens that the inlet valve they've fitted is more abrupt in in closing mechanism than the previous one.

Ask them to fit a shock arrestor, or if they refuse, fit one yourself (IYKWIM)

HTH

Russ

Bingo !
Thanks for that. YW say they replaced like for like, but it's not going to be the best valve is it - Whereas the private plumber that installed the old mechanism sometime in the 70's 80's would have sought to do a good job. As you say, the mechanism is closing abruptly, causing the noise. In my nearly 50 years I've never had a toilet that did this, it always closed gently and the water gradually slowed to a trickle and stopped. This is what I want

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Ruski wrote: »

Inlet valves are all different in their 'closing' procedures - I think it just so happens that the inlet valve they've fitted is more abrupt in in closing mechanism than the previous one.

Ask them to fit a shock arrestor, or if they refuse, fit one yourself (IYKWIM)
Russ

Actually - just googling shock arrestor, that's an external device fitted to the pipework right ? If so then my ideal solution is an inlet valve with a 'gentle closing procedure'.

Can't thank you enough for that phrase - I have a real problem forming sentences sometimes, and as the old saying goes, if you want the right answer you have to ask the right question

Carrot007

Yeah most valves are fast close these days which is annoying.


I replaced a bit of piping to try and fix hammer at mine but while it has reduced it, it has juts moved it around. And reducing the flow in might make the shower bad. It's just something to put up with or do more plumbing which is a pain.


And hey at least you got the clean end. YW while trying to do an unblocking pushed the wrong way and flooded my downstairs. Had to get the floow and skirting reaplced!

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Now I know some keywords I also found "Silent Fill", which I think is a slightly different system to a ballcock (I can see that's going to get censored)

Yes - most grateful it's not the other thing...

Ruski

unrecordings wrote: »

Now I know some keywords I also found "Silent Fill", which I think is a slightly different system to a ballcock (I can see that's going to get censored)

Yes - most grateful it's not the other thing...

Silent fill isn't necessarily going to solve the problem!
Silent fill fills the cistern from the bottom of the fill valve, so it's permanently under water so you don't get the 'splashing water' sound with a conventional Torbeck (e.g.) valve which lets water into the cistern from the top of the valve.
If you want an 'old school' ballcock there's nothing stopping you fitting one - you'll get 'splashy sounds' but the valve will shut off slowly...

HTH

Russ

Aylesbury_Duck

I fitted a ballcock in my cistern then used the long, slim plastic sleeve the float arm came in to make a silent filler, taking the water from the filler nozzle to the bottom of the cistern.

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Ruski wrote: »

Silent fill isn't necessarily going to solve the problem!
Silent fill fills the cistern from the bottom of the fill valve, so it's permanently under water so you don't get the 'splashing water' sound with a conventional Torbeck (e.g.) valve which lets water into the cistern from the top of the valve.
If you want an 'old school' ballcock there's nothing stopping you fitting one - you'll get 'splashy sounds' but the valve will shut off slowly...

HTH

Russ

Thank you
Good to know - I'll ignore Silent Fill


Edit - And thanks for adding 'Torbeck' that's getting me somewhere interesting on Google

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Aylesbury_Duck wrote: »

I fitted a ballcock in my cistern then used the long, slim plastic sleeve the float arm came in to make a silent filler, taking the water from the filler nozzle to the bottom of the cistern.

Thanks - Water from or after the valve isn't the problem, it's the valve itself. We've got one of those tube/sleeve things you describe - the old valve had one fitted, the new valve has one as well

I'm not so bothered about it being completely silent - and I can understand that maybe there's going to be a trade off, but if it can wake me up at night then somethings wrong. You could say I'm being 'proactive' :rotfl: in asking advice prior to going back to Yorkshire Water. It could just be as simple as a faulty valve, and the next one they pull from stock will be just fine. Still trying to figure it out, on one occasion it was observed to be completely silent