We're aware that some users are experiencing technical issues which the team are working to resolve. Thank you for your patience.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Regular Overpayments vs One off payments

Options
Hi all, looking for some advice.

I owe £88k on my mortgage and 12years left, paying the variable rate of 2.5%. I'm paying £668 p/m and can overpay by £600 p/m. Using the calculator that will bring me to 6 years.

My question is, am I best to do that or to save the money and pay big one off payments. Maybe annually or even after 5 years?


My credit rating is only 'fair' due to some issues I had a few years ago now so I have not tried to change mortgage, I also want to make these overpayments without fees/fines.

Am I doing right, or should I be trying to get another mortgage?

Any help would be appreciated.

Lee
:T
First Direct -
Claimed £1340
Recieved £1240

Nat West
Claiming £30 (Why not?)

Claiming -
First letter asking for charges sent to -
Yorkshire Bank + Visa
Egg
Capital One
Barclaycard
Morgan Stanley

Comments

  • VDOT47
    VDOT47 Posts: 277 Forumite
    If you can save your £600 per month into regular savings account which are earning more than 2.5%, which should be easy to do (FD, Nationwide for example do regular savers at 5%, although you need a basic current account with them first) then I would save into those for a year and then pay the lump sum plus interest off the mortgage once a year.
    Original Mortgage (Feb '17) £269,995
    Current Mortgage (End 11/19) £226,790
    End Date November 2039 Original End Date February 2042
  • leegmac
    leegmac Posts: 6 Forumite
    I'm not great with the maths but does that save the same amount off the mortgage (lets say I had a savings account with 2.5%, same as the mortgage). Does it make no difference when you make the payment, monthly or annually...you save the same amount of interest on your mortgage?
    :T
    First Direct -
    Claimed £1340
    Recieved £1240

    Nat West
    Claiming £30 (Why not?)

    Claiming -
    First letter asking for charges sent to -
    Yorkshire Bank + Visa
    Egg
    Capital One
    Barclaycard
    Morgan Stanley

  • Hi Lee. have you tried playing around with the mse overpayment calculator? You can see what the difference is between making a one-off payment vs making regular occurring overpayments. For example, what difference does paying £1200 make in the first year vs paying off £100pm for 12 months.

    It also depends when interest is calculated I think. If your interest rate is calculated daily, it probably makes more sense to pay off a large lump sum. Someone may want to come along and correct me on that though.
    Mortgage balance October 2015: £99875 Mortgage balance June 2023: £69999.40
  • VDOT47
    VDOT47 Posts: 277 Forumite
    edited 10 July 2018 at 4:51PM
    On your example, on a mortgage of £88,000 over 25 years @2.5% if you saved up £600 pcm into a savings account then paid off the full £7200 in 1 year's time, your balance then would be £78,234. You would also have the interest earned in the regular savers (at 5-6%, perhaps £180-200) to overpay as well. So your balance would be approximately £78,035 - £78,050.


    If you overpaid the £600 each month as you went along your balance would be £78,151.


    So by my maths (using the overpayment calculator on this site), at the end of year 1 you'd be better off by about £100 by using the regular savers.
    Original Mortgage (Feb '17) £269,995
    Current Mortgage (End 11/19) £226,790
    End Date November 2039 Original End Date February 2042
  • beefturnmail
    beefturnmail Posts: 928 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 500 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    edited 10 July 2018 at 4:54PM
    Think of it like this: At the end of each month, do you have somewhere to put the spare £600 which earns more than 2.5% interest? If the answer is yes, you are better off doing that, if no, better off paying off the mortgage. The difference is simply the difference in interest e.g. if you put it in a 5% regular saver, you are better off by £15 p.a. for each chunk of £600. When the Regular saver matures ask yourself the same question on the whole amount e.g. do I have anywhere to put this (say) £3k which earns more than 2.5%. Also factor in that once you pay of the mortgage you lose access to the cash i.e. you can't use the money to pay for something unexpected (a new boiler, major car work etc), like you could with savings. IMHO this means it's worth keeping some in savings even if it earns slightly under your mortgage rate.
  • VDOT47
    VDOT47 Posts: 277 Forumite
    PS - redone the maths for a 12 year term (missed this on a first read through!) and the figures are still that you are about £100 better off using the regular savers than the monthly overpayments.
    Original Mortgage (Feb '17) £269,995
    Current Mortgage (End 11/19) £226,790
    End Date November 2039 Original End Date February 2042
  • leegmac
    leegmac Posts: 6 Forumite
    Thanks folks, really helpful.

    I think I will look for the best saving account I can find. I suppose as long as my savings are above the mortgage rate then I'm doing right!


    So, taking that advice, I should try to find a fixed term deal and pay less which means more for the savings. I should always fall out into the variable rate again which means I can then overpay when I have a big chunk to pay.


    Thanks again.
    :T
    First Direct -
    Claimed £1340
    Recieved £1240

    Nat West
    Claiming £30 (Why not?)

    Claiming -
    First letter asking for charges sent to -
    Yorkshire Bank + Visa
    Egg
    Capital One
    Barclaycard
    Morgan Stanley

  • beanielou
    beanielou Posts: 95,225 Ambassador
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Academoney Grad Mortgage-free Glee!
    Can you trust yourself not to touch the money in the regular saver?
    If in any doubt pay off the mortgage.
    I am a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on Mortgage Free Wannabe & Local Money Saving Scotland & Disability Money Matters. If you need any help on those boards, do let me know.Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any post you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button , or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own & not the official line of Money Saving Expert.

    Lou~ Debt free Wanabe No 55 DF 03/14.**Credit card debt free 30/06/10~** MFW. Finally mortgage free O2/ 2021****
    "A large income is the best recipe for happiness I ever heard of" Jane Austen in Mansfield Park.

    ***Fall down seven times,stand up eight*** ~~Japanese proverb.
    ***Keep plodding*** Out of debt, out of danger. ***Be the difference.***
    One debt remaining. Home improvement loan.
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 350.7K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.4K Spending & Discounts
  • 243.7K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 598.4K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 176.8K Life & Family
  • 256.8K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.