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Protected no claims discount

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  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    Incorrect wrote: »
    But are we not being conned into buying something on the premise that the premium will not go up ?
    No.

    Nice simple illustration...

    Without the claim, let's say your premium would have been £640. You get a 50% discount, so you pay £320.
    With the claim and protected NCB, you are a higher risk. Your premium is now £1,400. But you still get a 50% discount, so you pay £700.
    With the claim, but without protected NCB, your premium would still be £1,400 - but you would get no discount, so you would pay £1,400.

    The moral of the story is not to drive into things. Insurers don't like people who do that.
  • Carrot007
    Carrot007 Posts: 4,534 Forumite
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    AdrianC wrote: »
    No.

    Nice simple illustration...

    Without the claim, let's say your premium would have been £640. You get a 50% discount, so you pay £320.
    With the claim and protected NCB, you are a higher risk. Your premium is now £1,400. But you still get a 50% discount, so you pay £700.
    With the claim, but without protected NCB, your premium would still be £1,400 - but you would get no discount, so you would pay £1,400.

    The moral of the story is not to drive into things. Insurers don't like people who do that.


    As far as I am aware the discount is not on 100% of the premium anyway, just certain part/parts of it.
  • facade
    facade Posts: 7,870 Forumite
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    AdrianC wrote: »
    The moral of the story is not to drive into things. Insurers don't like people who do that.


    They don't like people who leave their car where other people can drive into it either ;)
    I want to go back to The Olden Days, when every single thing that I can think of was better.....

    (except air quality and Medical Science ;))
  • FreddieFrugal
    FreddieFrugal Posts: 1,752 Forumite
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    As already said - the clue is in the name:

    Protected No Claims Discount (Bonus)

    You're protecting the % discount, not the overall premium.

    Otherwise they'd be advertising it as - One Free Claim
    Mortgage remaining: £42,260 of £77,000 (2.59% til 03/18 - 2.09% til 03/23)

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  • Incorrect
    Incorrect Posts: 7 Forumite
    Hi , I ended up paying £400 with AA
  • Tom99
    Tom99 Posts: 5,371 Forumite
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    edited 8 July 2018 at 9:39AM
    AdrianC wrote: »
    No.
    Nice simple illustration...
    Without the claim, let's say your premium would have been £640. You get a 50% discount, so you pay £320.
    With the claim and protected NCB, you are a higher risk. Your premium is now £1,400. But you still get a 50% discount, so you pay £700.
    With the claim, but without protected NCB, your premium would still be £1,400 - but you would get no discount, so you would pay £1,400.
    The moral of the story is not to drive into things. Insurers don't like people who do that.


    [FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]Yes of course its a con. You have paid extra to protect your No Claims Discount at 50%, paying £320. You have an accident and your premium is now £700 it has gone up 120% because you made a claim.[/FONT]
    [FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]Your premium went up because you made a claim therefore your No Claims discount has not been protected at all even though you paid extra for it in the 1st place.[/FONT]
    [FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]The insurance co telling you "but it would have been £1,400" it just a further twist to the con to try and convince you that you still have 50% NCD even though you premium has more than doubled.[/FONT]
    [FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]As you have demonstrated £1,400 is 250% more than you needed to pay.[/FONT]
  • Incorrect
    Incorrect Posts: 7 Forumite
    Just as a point of interest , I didn't drive into anything . I live out in the sticks and on my way to work one morning a deer jumped over a hedge straight onto my car bonnet . So although it was not my fault , it was my fault because the insurers could not claim off the deer .
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    Incorrect wrote: »
    Just as a point of interest , I didn't drive into anything . I live out in the sticks and on my way to work one morning a deer jumped over a hedge straight onto my car bonnet . So although it was not my fault , it was my fault because the insurers could not claim off the deer .
    To insurers, there's no difference at all. Your policy cost them money.
  • Incorrect wrote: »
    Just as a point of interest , I didn't drive into anything . I live out in the sticks and on my way to work one morning a deer jumped over a hedge straight onto my car bonnet . So although it was not my fault , it was my fault because the insurers could not claim off the deer .


    Oh deer...
  • caprikid1
    caprikid1 Posts: 2,518 Forumite
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    AdrianC wrote: »
    To insurers, there's no difference at all. Your policy cost them money.



    As has been said, its based on risk.


    Age, Location , Car, years driving , number of accidents etc etc.


    Protected No claims is proabably just a way of getting more money out of you. If you protect or not protect does it change your risk profile ???? I would argue that someone who does not protect their no claims believes they won't have an accident ?
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