Indigo railway PCN (not parked within marked bay)

andrew-ajc

Handbags-at-dawn wrote: »

The instruction you are accused of disobeying must be "issued by or on behalf of an operator or an authorised person" - Byelaw 14(2) (ii).

If you look at the bottom of the signs in the car park, you'll see that the instructions are issued by Indigo Park Solutions UK Ltd,, company no.02518720. They claim to be authorised by GTR for the purposes of the Railway Byelaws.

This doesn't appear to be the case, as it's Indigo Park Services UK Ltd who have the authorisation. This is a different company with a different company number - 02362957. There is no evidence that Indigo Park Solutions has any more authority to issue instructions than Donald Duck.

So even if you had parked outside a marked bay, you still can't be in breach of Byelaw 14 (2) (ii) because the instruction was not issued by an authorised person.

Yes this is correct... all of the pictures I have of the car park signage is for Indigo Park Solutions UK Ltd, not Indigo Park Services which is with whom all of the correspondence I have had so far (including the letter of authority as you can see)

The_Deep

Short and curlies.

pould

It would be really interesting to see if they're using the same letter of authority for other car parks with other train operators.

andrew-ajc

For anyone who may be interested, I have a link to the latest "letter of authority" from Indigo below. This was supposedly sent to me to prove that the Indigo Parking Solutions UK Ltd car park I used did have the necessary authority from GTR to issue PCN's, but considering all it does is refer to the original land owner agreement which was dated on 18th October 2015 which is supposedly between Indigo Park Services UK Ltd and GTR it appears to be a very poor attempt to cover their backsides.

drive.google.com/open?id=1kmVpZE3lKTsX58oQS0rNPqxVMPwO1U3b

Once again as a new user I'm not able to post the full link, but the above should work copy and pasted.

Le_Kirk

Here is your link made live: -
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kmVpZE3lKTsX58oQS0rNPqxVMPwO1U3b/view

twhitehousescat

andrew-ajc wrote: »

For anyone who may be interested, I have a link to the latest "letter of authority" from Indigo below. This was supposedly sent to me to prove that the Indigo Parking Solutions UK Ltd car park I used did have the necessary authority from GTR to issue PCN's, but considering all it does is refer to the original land owner agreement which was dated on 18th October 2015 which is supposedly between Indigo Park Services UK Ltd and GTR it appears to be a very poor attempt to cover their backsides.

drive.google.com/open?id=1kmVpZE3lKTsX58oQS0rNPqxVMPwO1U3b

Once again as a new user I'm not able to post the full link, but the above should work copy and pasted.

interesting , indigo park services did not exist untill nov 5th that yr , AFTER the contract was signed https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/02362957

twhitehousescat

INDIGO PARK SOLUTIONS UK LIMITED (not parking solutions was so called on 19 Jan 2016 having previously been known a METEOR PARKING LIMITED https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/02518720

fisherjim

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kmVpZE3lKTsX58oQS0rNPqxVMPwO1U3b/view



Possibly smoke and mirrors, it would be interesting to see how that panned out in the small claims court if on bye-law land!


Don't forget Train operating companies can't even make a timetable work let alone anything else.

nosferatu1001

I would ask them that quesiton - that they have a letter of atuthority but not to the company making the signs.
Ask how they are therefore an "authorised person", and not, for example, a dodgy company making fraudulent claims?