What is a p45 form?

questricky8

Hi All, I have just started a new job last week. Its my first proper job. How do I get a p45 form? What does the form tell my employer? Does it give have any information regarding how long I have been unemployed or what benefits I have recieved? Does my company have to fill out this form in regards how much an hour I earn or stuff like that? Sorry for all the questions but this new territory for me. Many thanks.

NeilCr

Hope this helps

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/debt-and-money/tax/problems-with-tax/pay-as-you-earn-common-problems/#h-starting-a-new-job

TELLIT01

A P45 provides pay information from your previous employer. If this it your first job you will not have a P45.

questricky8

This is my first job so I dont have. I will go to the JC and collect one.

questricky8

Just one more thing. I be honest I did lie on my application form stating that I had a job in 2017. I know it was wrong thing to do but I thought I would have a better chance of getting the job that stating I have never had a job before. So, if I don't have a p45 and just go through the starters checklist stage then my employer know I would have been lying and I will be dismissed from my job is that correct? Or the p45 irrelavant from April 2018? I don't get it at all.

tazwhoever

As it's your first job, you won't have P45. Your employer will give you P46 to complete.

questricky8

I thought P46 were abolished in 2013. Regardless, if i dont have a P45 my new employer will know I have been lying about my past.

starrybee

If you're on JSA you will get a p45 from them when you sign off.

Lying about working last year won't have done you much good if they ask for references?

TadleyBaggie

A P45 from a previous tax year is of no use to a new employer anyway.

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questricky8 wrote: »

Regardless, if i dont have a P45 my new employer will know I have been lying about my past.

Never been asked for last 2/3 years when starting new job for P45.
(I've had a few jobs) a lot of companies now operate on portals which has the new starter form (which replaced P46) as a pretty automated process, so there is often no way to get a P45 to a body.

Sat though a 'security check' last summer which didn't even chuck up HMRC had decided to record me as having 2 jobs. I even had an Employer who 'doesn't allow second jobs without permission' when they couldn't care why my tax code was being queried said you either have a secondary income or owe money to HMRC - in fact it did turn out a job/position from 2014 had come to the surface rather weirdly. But no body would have cared apart from me.

I do tend to ask Employers for contracts now so when new Employers decide I'm lying about being fixed term, I have a copy of contract to prove otherwise but that's as worse as it has got recently. As sad as that is. It certainly doesn't help when some companies will post both a permanent and then a temporary job within days of each other often.

Good luck with your new job.

chrisbur

TadleyBaggie wrote: »

A P45 from a previous tax year is of no use to a new employer anyway.

This is often said on this forum but is not strictly true; If you have a look here....
https://www.gov.uk/new-employee-tax-code
this gives step by step instructions on the action a new employer should take when given P45s for this year, last year or previous to last year.
In some cases tax codes from last year can be used by the new employer and for a while at the start of the new year an L code can be increased by the new tax year adjustment and used.
Earnings and tax figures for any previous tax year are obviously not used.