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Installing a gas cooker.

Hi


I am wondering if someone can clarify something for me.


We have been given a range cooker all in perfect working order. My dad is a retired CORGI (now Gas safe) registered engineer. He is happy to install this for us (it has the simple bayonet fitting)



Reading online it seems confusing as to what exactly the law is. I have read so many contrasting things. Some seem to say it is an offence and can lead to prison for someone to install a gas appliance who isn't gas safe registered. Others say anyone can install the bayonet type fitting. Another says anyone can fit it but then it must be checked for a leak by a gas safe registered person......


We have just moved into our house and the previous owner didn't have a certificate for the installation so I believe they had to get indemnity insurance. Whilst this is fine for if the house blows up, it isn't great if we are in it!


Can anyone tell me or point me to what the law actually is for installing one. I have emailed a load of people on the gas safe register and of those who replied they either wanted £150 to do it. Or were too busy. I presume with it being such a simple job people either want to charge a fortune or aren't interested.


Many thanks
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  • Silvertabby
    Silvertabby Posts: 10,065 Forumite
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    Is your dad currently registered - or did he let it lapse when he retired?
  • photome
    photome Posts: 16,645 Forumite
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    Dont know the law, but I paid £125 to have ours fitted, a couple of months ago
  • EssexExile
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    Who do you trust more with you & your families safety, your Dad or an unknown chap with the right certificate?
    Tall, dark & handsome. Well two out of three ain't bad.
  • Getting your dad to install the cooker for you is perfectly legal.
    Provided that someone is competent to do the work then they are legally allowed to do so and do not have to be Gas safe registered unless they are employed to do the job.
    The only other time a Gas safe certificated fitter is needed is if they are working in a retail property (so a landlord who owns a shop or house/flat that they rent out can't have a non certified fitter do any gas work).


    There is no legal definition of what counts as being competent but provided that your dad knows the up to date regulations and requirements and he still has all of his marbles, I don't see any reason why he wouldn't be classed as being competent.
  • inacrisis
    inacrisis Posts: 105 Forumite
    Is your dad currently registered - or did he let it lapse when he retired?


    Hi,


    He no longer is registered as it wouldn't make sense to pay the fees when he doesn't need to.


    Thanks
  • inacrisis
    inacrisis Posts: 105 Forumite
    EssexExile wrote: »
    Who do you trust more with you & your families safety, your Dad or an unknown chap with the right certificate?


    This is exactly my point. I am sure you could do a 12 week online course and be gas registered where as my dad worked doing this for 40 years.
  • inacrisis
    inacrisis Posts: 105 Forumite
    Getting your dad to install the cooker for you is perfectly legal.
    Provided that someone is competent to do the work then they are legally allowed to do so and do not have to be Gas safe registered unless they are employed to do the job.
    The only other time a Gas safe certificated fitter is needed is if they are working in a retail property (so a landlord who owns a shop or house/flat that they rent out can't have a non certified fitter do any gas work).


    There is no legal definition of what counts as being competent but provided that your dad knows the up to date regulations and requirements and he still has all of his marbles, I don't see any reason why he wouldn't be classed as being competent.


    Thanks that is what I was hoping to hear. I had read somewhere that you could go to prison but I presume this is if you are not registered and charge someone to do the work. At the end of the day it is a similar job to changing the lightbulb, I know I can legally remove the connection move the current cooker, clean under it and then reinstall it. But I wasn't sure about attaching a new cooker. My dad can also check the new cooker to ensure it works. I jsut wanted some confirmation he wouldn't end up going to prison lol.


    Thanks
  • tacpot12
    tacpot12 Posts: 9,216 Forumite
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    Just make sure your dad tests the appliance and its connection for leaks after fitting.
    The comments I post are my personal opinion. While I try to check everything is correct before posting, I can and do make mistakes, so always try to check official information sources before relying on my posts.
  • Owain_Moneysaver
    Owain_Moneysaver Posts: 11,391 Forumite
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    How long ago did your father retire? Gas regulations do change, in particular ventilation/space requirements and the requirement for a flame failure device on cookers in some circumstances.

    If it's a range cooker, depending on its gas consumption, the existing supply point / hose may not be adequate.
    A kind word lasts a minute, a skelped erse is sair for a day.
  • ohreally
    ohreally Posts: 7,525 Forumite
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    Is it a case of connecting a cooker hose or are there further installation issues to deal with?
    https://www.screwfix.com/p/cookerflex-straight-bayonet-cooker-hose-12-5mm-x-1200mm/33878
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