QDR potential LBC after 5 years!?

Yankeecandle123

Right so I’m asking for some advice, I’ve read the NEWBIES post and wasn’t really able to find any guidance in the situation I’m currently in.

I have a letter template which I’m tempted to use, being the letter detailed on Granty22 post on Civil Enforcement Ltd.

But I am at the point where it’s nearly 5 years since the issueing of the ticket and do have 5 of these letters, one for each parking event and they are different dates. Received numerous DRP, ZZPS and Zenith sect chasing letters and now on the below templated letter:

“Issue date: 30/09/2013 11:32
Outstanding balance: £162

We are instructed by ZZPS Limtited in behalf of Ethical Parking Management Ltd.

We previously wrote to you in connection with the recovery of Debt, which has been incurred following the failure to repay a Parking Charge Notice (PCN).

Payment is now long overdue. If the Debt is not repaid in full within 14 days of the date of this letter, our client may consider County Court Proceedings against you. If such a step is necessary, we will ask the court to order that you pay our Clients legal costs. These will likely be more than the balance of the Debt.

If a county court judgement is obtained against you, it’s details will be entered on the Register of Judgments, Orders and Fines. It will remain on the register for 6 years. Please note this may impact on your ability to obtain future credit as this information is available to lenders and finance companies.
If a CCJ is obtained against you and you do not pay it, we may commence enforcement action to recover the above amount plus any costs incurred, via one of the following methods:

Issuing an Attatchment of Earnings application. If this order is granted it instructs your employer to deduct money from your wages to pay back your debt.

Issuing a Warrant of Control application. If this order is granted the court permits the use of Bailiffs in the recovery of the total debt outstanding plus costs.”

This letter is also signed by QDR Solictiors not by a members of staff? And yes they have capiltised the word Debt! !!!128580;

Once again before anyone says to read the newbies post I have, and as mentioned above, I have 5 letters for 5 separate occasions and this is 5 years after the parking event and just looking for guidance as to the letter template I attached above would be worth sending and if not how I approach this.

Thanks in advance!

Yankeecandle123

Also the letters I have received are dated 12th but actually delivered 16th so 4 days of the 14 days have technically passed!!!55357;!!!56900;

Umkomaas

QDR, while operating under the banner of Wright Hassall (yep, really, that's their name) Solicitors are acting as Debt Collectors and should be dealt with as such. Sorry to refer you back to the NEWBIES FAQ sticky, but post #4 covers debt collectors and how to deal (ignore) them. We have never seen any case where QDR has been involved move to court proceedings.

Neither for that matter have we seen any Ethical (now known as One Parking Solution) case get to court. Just one single court appearance, but that could have been any kind of case not involving parking, to my knowledge we didn't deal with it here.

http://www.parkingappeals.info/companydata/One_Parking_Solution.html

https://padi.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/211765025-One-Parking-Solution-Ltd

There have been a lot of different agents handling your data. I'd be very concerned about how it has been allowed to fly around the system. You are entitled to know why/ how they have acquired it, how safely it has been dealt with and who else it has been passed to. You can give them all an immense amount of work to be getting on with, then when you get their replies you can match them all up to ensure that each passing of your data is fully in line with the DPA.

We term a request for such information from them, a 'SAR-bomb', and the following thread explains how to drop one, and what you should pack in it.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5849784/june-2018-start-of-the-new-ppc-and-dvla-fightback-gdpr-related

Landing one of those on each of their desks will be giving them enough to do to stop them whining on about taking you to court. If they mess their responses up, you could be taking them to court!

beamerguy

A lot of "if's and may"

Their clients legal costs "may" exceed the balance
of the debt ????? NOT IN COUNTY COURT QDR ?

"If a CCJ is obtained against you and you do not pay it, we may commence enforcement action to recover the above amount plus any costs incurred, via one of the following methods:

Issuing an Attatchment of Earnings application. If this order is granted it instructs your employer to deduct money from your wages to pay back your debt.

Issuing a Warrant of Control application. If this order is granted the court permits the use of Bailiffs in the recovery of the total debt outstanding plus costs.!!!8221;

They assume they will win don't they ? If you win you
can claim costs against them and if they don't pay, you
send in the bailiffs

You never give known scammers any details of your
earnings or anything else for that matter.
That would be a matter for the judge to decide.

"Issuing a Warrant of Control application"
For £160 ????? don't be so stupid QDR ???

Such a misleading and menacing letter deserves only
only place and that is on the desk of a Trading Standards
Officer for investigation

No doubt Trading Standards will already know that QDR
are an off shoot of Wright Hassall Solicitors who are
infamous in the parking scam
They should start any investigation at Wright Hassall's door

Redx

the parking co has 6 years to try a court claim (not ZZPS)


come back if you get a formal LBC or an MCOL in the post


IGNORE the debt collectors

Castle

Know your "enemy":-https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/05024823

Basically, the current Ethical Parking Management Ltd can't take you to court as they don't own the alleged "debts". The original Ethical Parking Management Ltd changed its name to One Parking Solution Ltd on 7th May 2015

twhitehousescat

not the old ethical parking scam again

the company is dormant

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/05024823

the name ethical parking management was only registered in 2016 , previous company name was PREMIER PLUS TRAINING LIMITED , who likewise are/were dormant

challenge them , not for the company name BUT the company number

Yankeecandle123

Out of curiosity then, if the company is currently now dormant, can!!!8217;t they even proceed with anything? Granted the tickets were originally issued in 2013, when they were an active company.

I!!!8217;ll go through and report to trading standards agency and find a template letter for this, but is it Worthing using the template I mentioned in the original post in order to reply to this QDR letter or just carry on to ignore them?

I can!!!8217;t see what leg they would stand on if the parking company they are putting on their letters is dormant?! Surely they would of corrected that? So I could send the templates letter mentioned above and then just ask them to confirm company number !

Thank you everyone for your help so far! I know there!!!8217;s a lot of posts but hadn!!!8217;t seen one saying it!!!8217;s 5 years later and 5 tickets! !!!55357;!!!56900;

Redx

turn off SMART PUNCTUATION on your apple device, its ruining your posts on here

beamerguy

Yankeecandle123 wrote: »

Out of curiosity then, if the company is currently now dormant, can!!!8217;t they even proceed with anything? Granted the tickets were originally issued in 2013, when they were an active company.

I!!!8217;ll go through and report to trading standards agency and find a template letter for this, but is it Worthing using the template I mentioned in the original post in order to reply to this QDR letter or just carry on to ignore them?

I can!!!8217;t see what leg they would stand on if the parking company they are putting on their letters is dormant?! Surely they would of corrected that? So I could send the templates letter mentioned above and then just ask them to confirm company number !

Thank you everyone for your help so far! I know there!!!8217;s a lot of posts but hadn!!!8217;t seen one saying it!!!8217;s 5 years later and 5 tickets! !!!55357;!!!56900;

It's just a scam. As it's a debt collector letter you should
not bother talking to scammers

There is no template to use for Trading Standards.

In your own words issue a complaint enclosing the letter
and point out the fabrications they use trying to
extort money from you

Yankeecandle123

Thanks Beamerguy, i know most templates do outline the standards they should follow when they issue an LBC (if thats even what QDR are implying) and no such standards are being followed according to the template i mentioned when replying to them. Would i need include this when reporting to trading standards, I've never had to report a company before so sorry don't know how to approach!

Redx, sorry about the apple smart punctuation! In regards to your above reply regarding an official LBC, ive been told that they do not necessarily need to provide an official LBC or even state that clearly on a letter and this is someone i know who works for another one of those companies - Mortimer Clarke - also know under Cabot. Which is why i am asking the questions.

I am quite happy to ignore them if it unlikely this will lead to court. The fact that is been 5 years and they only have 1 year left to chase the pending charges make me think they are resulting to this. i have read that if i don't show i have tried communicating with therefor further information required that his won't necessarily working my favour.