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Prepping for Brexit thread
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So we'll re-invent the screwdriver MAR and fix it!0
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A guillotine would be very handy if anybody has a blueprint ..0
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I don't do politics but I do vote as I feel is fitting because the opportunity to do so was hard won and because if I don't I can't complain about what government imposes on us. If Brexit happens, which is by no means a certainty then we'll have to make the best of it. A positive frame of mind will be much more helpful towards making the best of what we find ourselves with but negativity will stop us in our tracks through regrets that we might all share and might be the difference between floating on the new life or sinking beneath it. Some folks don't have the full range of practical skills that we had way back when but they will certainly pick them up pretty quickly from necessity and there are many of us older folk who will be able to help younger people in so many ways by teaching them how to do things old fashioned style. It need not be all gloom and doom although I'll expect a few spectacular storms along the way!0
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I do think a lot of it is the uncertainty - we don't know what we are prepping for... we don't know what will happen, except it is likely that there may be a short term gap in the supply of goods we are used to and a long term hike in prices.
it isn't just the stuff from the EU - being a member of the EU gives us favourable terms on goods from the rest of the world and we just don't know if that will continue. The pound is likely to dive (again) so should we maybe buy some euros or $US? We simply don't produce enough goods here to feed us all so, whilst we can buy greek yogurt equivalents and somerset brie, it isn't as easy as that - there isn't going to be enough and so we will be forced to pay more for imported goods.
There are likely to be job losses and austerity measures will be hiked up again - that means less to spend on mending the roads, for example which will impact on the cars. Corbyn got mocked for bringing up the issue of buses the other day - but people rely on them, but those in westminster (and certainly those in charge of Brexit) have no notion of this. Certain services, mostly (I suspect) those affecting the poor and disadvantaged are going to be cut (again), there will be more homeless and more desperate people. Suicide rates have gone up exponentially since this government came in, this affects things like the train services (when the poor desperate souls fling themselves in front of them) as well as the emergency services, which are already stretched.
I know the thread at the beginning said 'no politics' but I am not sure how we get away from that. not knowing WHAT we are prepping for means that all these scenarios (albeit I accept some are extreme) are possible.
And in the event of NO brexit? Then there will be protests and riots the like of which we have never seen - the Poll tax protests will have nothing on the hoards who will be only too pleased to have an excuse to riot. Pity anyone who is of a different colour or nationality then....
so long term, of course we will cope, invent a new screwdriver (I like that analogy, Mrs LW) but short term? we just can't know except that it will be rough... And it was all avoidable and it was all based on lies and misinformation...I wanna be in the room where it happens0 -
Politics got us into this situation and I'm pretty sure it won't get us out of it too. Think back to the millennium and all the uncertainty there was about whether or not computer systems would cope and lots of people thought we'd revert to stone age savagery overnight but what happened was life as normal. I know circumstances here are different but it's still as much of an unknown quantity as the 1st of January in the year 2000 was. Prepping by its very nature is only trying to second guess the future and as we all know we each have a different perspective on what might happen, applies to Brexit too and unless anyone CAN see the future all any of us can do is make the preparations we think are going to be most use to us and our loved ones. Worrying about what might happen is futile and might give you ulcers!0
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I don't at all like this notion that people voted for Brexit simply because what politicians decided to write on a bus. Brexit voters have a say, have a voice, have a story to tell, have their own agendas, aspirations and above all, have an intellect, just like the Remainers.
It's very easy for the losing side to focus on something that doesn't shine the winning side in a very good light because it takes away their credibility.
It's all well and good for those of you out there who are ticking along very nicely and are opposed to a change. It's understandable. Don't fix what isn't broken but for many people change is appealing because they're just not part of this comfortable, prosperous life that being in the EU seems to deliver for other folk.0 -
Two sides will always be two sides and no one likes to be seen as losing a vote. The Brexit result was so close anyway I wonder where we'd be if it had been exactly 50/50 and the nation split equally between stay and leave. I seem to think that the last time it happened we had a civil war! if that's the case I'm happy to put up with criticism and derogatory comments from the slightly smaller remain vote but I'm not aware of seeing gloating and triumphalism from the stay voters, perhaps that says something about why folks voted the way they chose to. I certainly gave long hard consideration to both sides of the arguments for and against staying or leaving and my decision, which is mine alone was reasoned and from experience and nothing to do with a bloke and a bus with writing on. I really hope that something as crucial to the future of the UK wasn't decided by people either liking or hating either the political parties involved or propaganda on busses and in the media.0
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I think 2 things are important. One is that people are aware now of how the govt lies. And how big and shameless the lies are.
The other thing is that they can't defy the will of the people, it's democracy in action. If we let them away with this then things will go to hell. If they renege on this then I for one want a second Indy referendum lol .0 -
Whoever is in government lies, it's how governments are, the party in power at any given moment is irrelevant they ALL LIE! they have always lied so it's really important that they are seen to honour the decision made by the populace however the individuals in that populace came to make the decision to vote stay or go and irrelevant of how we on OS voted, that's a personal choice and no ones business but our own, those who voted leave were slightly larger in number than those who voted stay so the government cannot be allowed to choose not to honour the will of the people or we are not a democracy and that would be even more unforgivable!0
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I think that's a very good place to draw a line. I do think politics is hard to avoid but I think that this thread will become more popular, and needed, as the months drop off.
Dammit, pencil is blunt. Someone, quick draw a line!0
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