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Occupational Health forcing me to take sick leave

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  • custardy
    custardy Posts: 38,365 Forumite
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    I have been very clear that I would not ever do anything. I do not believe I am a danger to myself (certainly not to anyone else). Thoughts and actions are very different things. Mental illness is so misunderstood.

    My psychiatrist is far more qualified than you to assess my fitness for work so I'll take her opinion over yours if that's okay!!

    And no, I can't retire at the age of 29!

    I work in the private sector, not that that's got anything to do with it. A lot of your other assumptions are off by the way.

    So why are you here? People work off the information you supply.
  • nicechap
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    I have been very clear that I would not ever do anything. I do not believe I am a danger to myself (certainly not to anyone else). Thoughts and actions are very different things. Mental illness is so misunderstood.

    My psychiatrist is far more qualified than you to assess my fitness for work so I'll take her opinion over yours if that's okay!!

    And no, I can't retire at the age of 29!

    I work in the private sector, not that that's got anything to do with it. A lot of your other assumptions are off by the way.

    Well if that’s the way you react to objective advice, I’ll leave you to help yourself.
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  • ohreally
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    I'll seek proper legal advice instead.

    Then don't ask the question if you don't want to hear the answer.
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  • custardy
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    That comment wasn't directed at you!

    I'm here to get an understanding of the legal position, not an assessment of my fitness for work.

    I wish I'd never asked!

    I'll seek proper legal advice instead.

    It was clearly not directed to me, however all you get on forums is opinions.
    That sounds the best course of action in your situation.
    However my advice stands and you need to (to some degree) step back and look at the big picture.
    Do you see a future with this employer?
  • sangie595
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    That comment wasn't directed at you!

    I'm here to get an understanding of the legal position, not an assessment of my fitness for work.

    I wish I'd never asked!

    I'll seek proper legal advice instead.
    Well if you are in a position to do that, that is what yippy should have done. Not signed up for advice from a bunch of anonymous posters. But if you provide exactly the same information too a lawyer that you did here, I can guarantee that you'll get the same or similar advice to mine. Based on exactly the same information there's not a lot to be said!

    I did not comment on your psychiatrist or her opinion. Although I'd certainly be interested to know if she thinks it's ok for people who are fit for work to tell their managers that they are likely to commit suicide or harbour suicidal thoughts. I realise that you are ill and perhaps not best placed to think objectively, but seriously - what did you expect when you told employer that you might commit suicide because your secondment was ending? We're they supposed to just ignore that? And if they had ignored it and you did attempt to kill yourself, would you have them held them responsible?

    I'm sorry. I'm not giving you advice on your health and I'm not qualified to do so. But I am very well qualified to give you advice on your employment, and this is the employment board. So you can rant about it as much as you like, but you need to understand that the employer is not being unreasonable. They have supported you for two years. They continue to do so. But going to your manager and telling them you are suicidal, and the reason is that a secondment you always knew would come to an end may be ending, is not the action of a person fit for work. I would be a lot more worried about any employer who ignored such a statement and left the person in work as normal. That would be the actions of a careless and poor employer.

    This is not all about you. If you were to carry out the threat you have made, and saying you didn't mean it is pointless - why did you say it if you didn't mean it?- the impacts on your employer could be legally significant, and the impact on your colleagues very damaging. If you didn't mean it, if you weren't going to do it, then you should not have said it to your manager. But having said it they have a legal responsibility to protect you and to protect themselves and the employer.
  • TELLIT01
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    You'd do well to consider the post by sangie above. Their advice does come from years of experience and they give an honest appraisal of the situation and likely outcome.
  • lincroft1710
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    edited 10 June 2018 at 4:28PM
    Not much point trying to delete your original post as it has already been quoted as have all the subsequent posts which you deleted.
    If you are querying your Council Tax band would you please state whether you are in England, Scotland or Wales
  • I know! :p

    Hoping people will get the hint that this conversation is over. Thanks to those who tried to provide constructive advice.
  • Takeaway_Addict
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    I know! :p

    Hoping people will get the hint that this conversation is over. Thanks to those who tried to provide constructive advice.
    Some didn't try....they actually did....
    Don't trust a forum for advice. Get proper paid advice. Any advice given should always be checked
  • Some didn't try....they actually did....

    I can't do anything right can I?

    Thank you to those who provided constructive advice.
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