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EPC Rating - Renewal

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  • dimbo61
    dimbo61 Posts: 13,727 Forumite
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    No the landlord must improve the energy efficiency of the property in order to get a E or D rating !
    However once he/she has spent the money on new double glazing, insulation and energy saving lighting you can bet they will up the rent.
    A tenant can ask for the improvements to be done
  • bhjm
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    dimbo61 wrote: »
    No the landlord must improve the energy efficiency of the property in order to get a E or D rating !
    However once he/she has spent the money on new double glazing, insulation and energy saving lighting you can bet they will up the rent.
    A tenant can ask for the improvements to be done
    makes sense - i would do the same as lendlord ;)
  • G_M
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    dimbo61 wrote: »
    If the landlord is remortgaging to a new lender he/she will need a valid EPC
    IE one less than 10years old.
    ????/ Really????
  • sdpoo
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    My EPC guy came out at 19:00 in the evening, took about 30 minutes, very painless. Personally I wouldn't be an awkward tenant to my landlord and just let him have one done if he wants. Maybe he's remortgaging, worried about the F/G rating rules coming in, or maybe just believes he should have one done every 10 years.
  • dimbo61
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    edited 9 June 2018 at 3:41PM
    Hi GM,
    Maybe this does not apply to all lenders.
    We rent to students with 5/6/7/8 students and have a few more hoops to jump through.
    IE mains wired smoke alarms, interlinked with control panel.
    Fire doors and fire escape routes.
    We do major improvements so getting an old property from an F or G to a C or D with the cost being £50 or so is another tick on the checklist

    As a Landlord you have to provide a Valid EPC to your tenant/s and in this case the existing EPC is over 10years old and therefore Not valid !
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    dimbo61 wrote: »
    Hi GM,
    Maybe this does not apply to all lenders.
    We rent to students with 5/6/7/8 students and have a few more hoops to jump through.
    IE mains wired smoke alarms, interlinked with control panel.
    Fire doors and fire escape routes.
    We do major improvements so getting an old property from an F or G to a C or D with the cost being £50 or so is another tick on the checklist

    As a Landlord you have to provide a Valid EPC to your tenant/s and in this case the existing EPC is over 10years old and therefore Not valid !
    The extra 'hoops' you have to jump through are because it's an HMO.

    I've never come across a mortgage lender who demanded an EPC, either at the start of the tenancy, or start of the mortgage, or at any other time. The requirement for an EPC is regulatory, not to do with a loan. Happy to be corrected if this is not the case though!

    Yes, if the EPC is F or worse the new regs require upgrading to get an EPC of E or better - but the OP does not mention this. He says it is because it is 10 years old. And even if the EPC is an F or G, upgrading and a new EPC are only required when a new tenancy is granted.

    https://www.rla.org.uk/landlord/guides/minimum-energy-efficiency-standards.shtml

    You only have to provide an EPC to a tenant at the start of the tenancy. The OP appears to have received one when he moved in. There is no requirement to re-issue to the tenant either when the tenancy is renewed (eg after 6/12 months), or when the EPC expires (after 10 years).
  • bhjm
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    G_M wrote: »
    The extra 'hoops' you have to jump through are because it's an HMO.

    I've never come across a mortgage lender who demanded an EPC, either at the start of the tenancy, or start of the mortgage, or at any other time. The requirement for an EPC is regulatory, not to do with a loan. Happy to be corrected if this is not the case though!

    Yes, if the EPC is F or worse the new regs require upgrading to get an EPC of E or better - but the OP does not mention this. He says it is because it is 10 years old. And even if the EPC is an F or G, upgrading and a new EPC are only required when a new tenancy is granted.

    https://www.rla.org.uk/landlord/guides/minimum-energy-efficiency-standards.shtml

    You only have to provide an EPC to a tenant at the start of the tenancy. The OP appears to have received one when he moved in. There is no requirement to re-issue to the tenant either when the tenancy is renewed (eg after 6/12 months), or when the EPC expires (after 10 years).

    thanks for the explanation !
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