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How does FundingCircle vet potential borrowers?
eddyinfreehold
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Bit of a gripe here. I checked my account today as it's the 1 year anniversary of my investment. I have about 10k invested and the annual net yield has been 6.1% after fees and losses ... not bad at first glance, with my investment spread over more than 400 small firms. Of these 12 have defaulted and 8 have gone into liquidation as Limited Companies.
It is not rocket science for me to check the paperwork of the Ltds. that have been liquidated. They all seem to have a track record of paying on the nose for about 6 months then defaulting then liquidating voluntarily. When you check the Receiver/Liquidator accounts they all have racked up massive disproportionate debts with suppliers and more worryingly HMRC . I know that if I was a FC Loan assessor, those are the first two place I would look on the books to see whether a business keeps its nose clean or not.
I would point out the return has been acceptable and I have not lost capital on my investment, it's just that it could be so much better...
Any thoughts anyone?
It is not rocket science for me to check the paperwork of the Ltds. that have been liquidated. They all seem to have a track record of paying on the nose for about 6 months then defaulting then liquidating voluntarily. When you check the Receiver/Liquidator accounts they all have racked up massive disproportionate debts with suppliers and more worryingly HMRC . I know that if I was a FC Loan assessor, those are the first two place I would look on the books to see whether a business keeps its nose clean or not.
I would point out the return has been acceptable and I have not lost capital on my investment, it's just that it could be so much better...
Any thoughts anyone?
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eddyinfreehold wrote: »
Any thoughts anyone?
If these businesses were in good financial shape, they'd be borrowing from banks, not alternative lenders at high interest rates.
I used to use Funding Circle and I was amazed at the number of loans for 'unexpected tax bills' - how can a well run company have unexpected tax bills? That would have me running for the hills as a loan assessor.
At the end of the day, you are the person losing money, not Funding Circle, so what incentive is there *not* to loan money?0 -
You will not be getting a yield of 6% without some dodgy credit lending.
That is just something you will have to accept if you go into P2P it is a supposedly higherreturn for a reason - higher risk because of a poorer credit mix.0 -
I suspect they rely very heavily on credit scoring, to be fair the banks probably do the same. I believe there is a human who is supposed to check, but I doubt they very often over-ride the model. To be far the banks work in a similar way.0
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Hi
I am disgruntled too. Things were going well until they changed their auto bid system and I no longer have control on who I am bidding on. I have switched to the conservative mode just to protect my investment more but not sure if this is the thing to do. I was very excited this time last year on my funding circle dabbling but now I think it may be time to look else where. As the government is now investing in it that also means over supply of cash I would have thought so a long term reduction in the % given if supply and demand works in this scenario.
If anyone has an alternative plan, would be great to hear.0 -
I too have stopped reinvestment in FS as i can no longer choose what i invest in.Feudal Britain needs land reform. 70% of the land is "owned" by 1 % of the population and at least 50% is unregistered (inherited by landed gentry). Thats why your slave box costs so much..0
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