Why do people say there is/will be shortage of house?

Guy_Montag

barnaby-bear wrote: »

Where I live a couple often used to rent a 1-bed flat but now will rent one room in a shared house, shared houses often no longer have lounges just an extra bedroom, a two bed flat will usually have two couples in sharing.... you can cram a lot of people in the same accommodation and still no-ones on the streets - but there's a genuine shortage of tenured, permanent appropriate housing that lets people live and be part of a community put down roots and have families. Because people are crammed in to rent a two bed house you often need 3 or 4 full time salaries coming in because that's the norm... both parents have to work some of the kids go bad....or you move further out and commute (hence all those cars and dispersed communties and push out locals there breaking up that community). Shortage isn't about people on streets but changes and break downs in communties/social structures/living

Where you live (having lived there myself for a short time) is a disaster. There are so many new businesses set up there, yet no-one (in power) seems to realise that the employees of these businesses need to be housed. The two obvious solutions are to encourage these businesses to set up elsewhere or to build some decent housing in the area. Unfortunately (& I'm not sure why) no-one seems prepared to do either.

astonsmummy

movilogo wrote: »

I can't find shortage of house

AFAIK, nobody in this country lives on streets!

Everyone has somewhere to stay [rented/owned etc.]

There are still plenty of places with FOR SALE and TO LET boards.

I'm on rent - and changed home few times. I never faced "shortage" of properties.

Well, sometimes there can be shortage because a required property [to buy or rent] may not be available at specific price range. That shouldn't mean shortage any way.

Any thought?

Have you been on the special brew?
Of course people live on the streets!

C_Ronaldo

People live on the streets round here,

lack of choice of houses, not round here there isnt, theyre building new houses not far from me, some have been finished and others are half built

carolt

Sadly, some people do live on the streets - but some always have done, whatever house prices were doing, and will continue to do so, whatever house prices do. That's not to say it's right, but it is largely a red herring in the housing argument and more to do with policies of care in the community etc - an interesting subject but tangential to current discussions I think.

barnaby-bear

carolt wrote: »

Yes, that's true, but also misses the point that when prices are this high as well as large numbers of people crammed into too-small accommodation - representing 'shortage' in your view - you also have the reverse: huge numbers of old people (often single) who live in large family homes on their own. In the village I live in, ....

No *really* this is a town with a hugely skewed - young demographic, never had many homes anyway, very few old people - this town desperately does have a physical shortage of houses. There isn't accommodation badly allocated there simply isn't enough.

OK the local demographics, unfortunately there aren't sufficient old people to cull (see that nice big 20-34 aged bubble mainly crammed in HMOs):

Local Nat. Average
Total Population:108,879 49,138,831
% aged 0-19: 21.8701% 25.0533%
% aged 20-34: 33.7108% 20.3654%
% aged 35-49: 17.9245% 21.2733%
% aged 50-64: 13.3038% 17.4191%
% aged 65+: 13.1908%15.8889%

There are areas of the country with huges shortages.

... and no giving up the job and living in the north east with no job away from family isn't a solution.... can't really buy even a cheap house without a job :rolleyes:

barnaby-bear

Guy_Montag wrote: »

Where you live (having lived there myself for a short time) is a disaster. There are so many new businesses set up there, yet no-one (in power) seems to realise that the employees of these businesses need to be housed. The two obvious solutions are to encourage these businesses to set up elsewhere or to build some decent housing in the area. Unfortunately (& I'm not sure why) no-one seems prepared to do either.

Chicken & Egg... Most people would rather work so put up with the conditions.... and the businesses need the people and lets face it - they aren't going to get a comparable labour skill set/force in Hull or Liverpool even if there are cheap houses there.

I think some people seem to think you can rent a 3-bed semi for £600 or similar peanuts whereas £600 might get you an ex-council studio.... :rolleyes:

Guy_Montag

barnaby-bear wrote: »

Chicken & Egg... Most people would rather work so put up with the conditions.... and the businesses need the people and lets face it - they aren't going to get a comparable labour skill set/force in Hull or Liverpool even if there are cheap houses there.

I think some people seem to think you can rent a 3-bed semi for £600 or similar peanuts whereas £600 might get you an ex-council studio.... :rolleyes:

But my organisation has no difficulty getting top flight staff, even in the NE.

epz_2

barnaby-bear wrote: »

Chicken & Egg... Most people would rather work so put up with the conditions.... and the businesses need the people and lets face it - they aren't going to get a comparable labour skill set/force in Hull or Liverpool even if there are cheap houses there.

I think some people seem to think you can rent a 3-bed semi for £600 or similar peanuts whereas £600 might get you an ex-council studio.... :rolleyes:

funny, i didnt realise living in london made you intellectually superiour to other parts country.

you couldnt pay me to live down there, well you could but the pay would have to be enough for me to maintain the same standard of living i have in scotland and compensate for the extra hassle of living down there, that would have to be a LOT.

ive several mates with the same attitude one graduated as a top phd chemist but point blank refused to consider any jobs in the south east, the pay is little better but with the cost of housing it makes you worse off overall.

SquatNow

No shortage, just 800,000 houses stood empty being used as investments rather than as homes.

SquatNow

astonsmummy wrote: »

Have you been on the special brew?
Of course people live on the streets!

You CANT SAY THAT. You'll make all the people involved in BTL look like evil cretins.