Do grandparents have rights?

badmemory

Staffybullterrier wrote: »

I would say no. At the end of the day they are not your kids- simple as

I sure you are right they are obviously not the OPs children. Obviously none of us should care what happens to our grandchildren. Obviously to the majority of those of us on here your thinking is flawed, as in very flawed.

pollyanna24

Staffybullterrier wrote: »

I would say no. At the end of the day they are not your kids- simple as

You make the children sound like belongings and that the parents should have all the rights, regardless of how they are treating the kids.

Jox

Your grandkids need you gypsyteeny, be there for them as you have been and keep up the fight to see them, even if it means just tolerating your daughter's behaviour to her face.

She obviously has many issues and your grandkids will need your support to get through this, though I'm sure they love their mum and dad and want to be with them too as all kids do no matter how bad the behaviour is.

Staffybullterrier

my reply to badmemory is that I have come across dozens of cases of couples breaking up because one set of grandparents or another kept poking their noses in where it wasn`t wanted and thought that they knew best how other people should live their lives. I have always told my kids that if they want any advice then just ask. They might not like the answer but at least it will be a straight answer . But poking my nose in ? No thanks

Comms69

pollyanna24 wrote: »

You make the children sound like belongings and that the parents should have all the rights, regardless of how they are treating the kids.

Not only should, but legally do.


They also have the responsibility, and it sounds like in this case the whole situation was blown totally out of proportion.

paddy's_mum

Staffybullterrier wrote: »

because one set of grandparents or another kept poking their noses in where it wasn`t wanted and thought that they knew best how other people should live their lives

Rescuing your own flesh and blood, entirely lawfully, from a putrid, stinking, grossly unhygienic midden and saving them from possible death or serious injury at the hands of a drunken (driving?) parent is not, in anyone's book, "poking their noses in"!

Let's hope that your children or other kin are never in need of intervention by the Police as a result of crime or violence, by medical intervention because of dementia, by social care because of permanent brain damage, by an ambulance because of serious injury....if that's your honest and considered opinion of being nosy, then I am 100% for nosiness:D

Comms69

paddy's_mum wrote: »

Rescuing your own flesh and blood, entirely lawfully, from a putrid, stinking, grossly unhygienic midden and saving them from possible death or serious injury at the hands of a drunken (driving?) parent is not, in anyone's book, "poking their noses in"!

Let's hope that your children or other kin are never in need of intervention by the Police as a result of crime or violence, by medical intervention because of dementia, by social care because of permanent brain damage, by an ambulance because of serious injury....if that's your honest and considered opinion of being nosy, then I am 100% for nosiness:D

Statistically that wont happen to most people.

ska_lover

All i can say is.. Please be very careful that you are right and correct before involving social services etc..and be prepared to never have a relationship with your daughter again and for the kids to know you are the reason why they do not live with their mother

Hard situation but if things are as bad as you say, it's a considered choice...But be prepared for the fall out, as if you aren't prepared to have ALL the kids, they could well end up with strangers.

Kim_kim

ska_lover wrote: »

All i can say is.. Please be very careful that you are right and correct before involving social services etc..and be prepared to never have a relationship with your daughter again and for the kids to know you are the reason why they do not live with their mother

Hard situation but if things are as bad as you say, it's a considered choice...But be prepared for the fall out, as if you aren't prepared to have ALL the kids, they could well end up with strangers.

The police involved social services, not the grandparents.
The grandparents had been supporting the mother.
While the children were placed by social services with the grandparents the grandparents were responsible for the children and had to stop a drunken woman taking them off in her car!

OP - it sounds like you’ve given your daughter loads of support, I’m sure she will miss that in no time at all & be asking you to help with the children again shortly.

Comms69

Kim_kim wrote: »

The police involved social services, not the grandparents.
The grandparents had been supporting the mother.
While the children were placed by social services with the grandparents the grandparents were responsible for the children and had to stop a drunken woman taking them off in her car!

OP - it sounds like you’ve given your daughter loads of support, I’m sure she will miss that in no time at all & be asking you to help with the children again shortly.

Actually the Mum voluntarily put them there and could have taken them back legally drunk or not.