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Smart meter ????

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  • Anthorn
    Anthorn Posts: 4,362 Forumite
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    Shavuot wrote: »
    As long ago as Oct 2016, SP had already installed over 100,000 smart meters, and was ramping up then to install 2000 per day.

    They plan to install 5 million by 2020

    https://www.scottishpower.com/news/pages/iberdrola_scottishpower_q3_results_340_million_smart_meter_uk_contracts_placed.aspx

    From a report in February 2017
    Research claims 81% of people with smart meters would recommend them

    Scottish Power may well be set up to fit smart meters but they are certainly not set up to use them. Scroll back to the post of mine that you quoted and read it again.
  • rabialiones
    rabialiones Posts: 1,966 Forumite
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    There is lots of info in THE TIMES article from yesterday

    Unfortunately I can't post the link
    Nice to save.
  • System
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    Anthorn wrote: »
    As I understand it Smets1 can be converted to Smets2 and also that although Smets2 is available now the installation of Smets1 continues. Are we to understand that millions of smets1 meters will have to be physically removed and smets2 meters installed in their place in order for them to work?

    AFAIK, there are no plans to upgrade all SMETS1 meters to the new SMETS2 standard. The current plans are to upgrade the communications hubs so that they can connect to The Data Communications Company via a separate portal. For example, SMETS2 meters establish a wide area network (WAN) with other SMETS2 meters. It is not envisaged that upgraded SMETS1 meters will connect to this system.
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  • brewerdave
    brewerdave Posts: 8,823 Forumite
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    There is lots of info in THE TIMES article from yesterday

    Unfortunately I can't post the link


    ...need to be a subscriber to read it anyway!!:(
  • brewerdave
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    Hengus wrote: »
    AFAIK, there are no plans to upgrade all SMETS1 meters to the new SMETS2 standard. The current plans are to upgrade the communications hubs so that they can connect to The Data Communications Company via a separate portal. For example, SMETS2 meters establish a wide area network (WAN) with other SMETS2 meters. It is not envisaged that upgraded SMETS1 meters will connect to this system.


    Personally I think that Anthorn is nearer the truth - a lot of the initial SMETS1 installations will become dumb AND"unupgradeable",and the only way that the readings will get into a centralised system is if the householder manually reads and inputs into some form of database online. :(

    The meter manufacturers have zero interest in upgrading -they want to flog lots more SMETS 2/3/4... meters!!:eek:
  • System
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    brewerdave wrote: »
    Personally

    The meter manufacturers have zero interest in upgrading -they want to flog lots more SMETS 2/3/4... meters!!:eek:

    SMETS3 and 4 are just a hope expressed by those in the know that the next iteration of the Smart Meter Equipment Technical Specification will remove some of the known flaws in SMETS2. The big problem is that these meters are designed to send data in short bursts (to conserve battery life). It was never envisaged that a full SMETS firmware upgrade could be carried out over-the-air. In part, this is what makes this whole programme so risky. If a Foreign actor can disconnect a town's worth of smart meters with a cyber attack, then getting these meters back online could take weeks/months. This is why 'sensible' countries are not installing meters with a remote disconnection facility.
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