Ncp, trace recovery failure to send letters!

Jamesweir123

Hello,

I have searched the newbies thread and online for over an hour now and not been able to find an answer to this so a posting a new thread (please do not shoit at me for doing so!)

I recieved a letter last week, the first letter I've had regarding my parking fine from an ncp car park in Feb.
It states that I owe £160 for failing to respond to previous letters and that it will be my final warning before the solicitors.
My issue is ive had nothing before so assumed it was a hoax letter until I've researched the companies.
What do I do now? If I'd recieved a £60 fine Inwiuld have begrudgingly paid it but I didn't. I have no idea who was driving my car at the time/ day or what evidence they have.
Obviously I do not want to ignore if it will make it worse but also do not want to respond and make it worse before taking advice.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Kind regards

Redx

firstly , check your VRM details are correct on your V5C, correct home address etc, if they arent , update them with the DVLa ASAP


also send NCP the template letter of appeal, as keeper , appealing it anyway by treating this latest letter as the NTK

pogofish

This is fully covered by the Newbies Sticky, post one and four in particular.

Your talking about "fines" suggests you actually need to read it properly, not do random searches.

If you do decide to take the option of contacting NCP, you will need to phrase your letter very carefully to avoid identifying the driver, so do nothing till you have fully digested thesticky.

Fruitcake

As above, it is not a fine, and you would have been a mug to pay it at 60 quid anyway.

Also as above, send the template appeal as keeper to NCP, but add that since the letter from Trace Recovery was the first the keeper has heard about it, they consider it to be the NTK.
This assumes the keeper lives in England or Wales, and the vehicle was not a hire/lease car.

Then complain to your MP and Sir Greg Knight MP.

These are some of the comments made by the MPs in Parliament concerning the unregulated parking industry (Feb 2018):

https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2018-02-02/debates/CC84AF5E-AC6E-4E14-81B1-066E6A892807/Parking(CodeOfPractice)Bill

''Rip-offs from car park Cowboys must stop''; unfair treatment; signage deliberately confusing to ensure a PCN is issued; ''years of abuse by rogue parking companies''; bloodsuckers; ''the current system of regulation is hopeless, like putting Dracula in charge of the blood-bank''; extortionate fines; rogue operators; ''sense of injustice''; unfair charges and notices; wilfully misleading; signage is a deliberate act to deceive or mislead; ''confusing signs are often deliberate, to trap innocent drivers''; unreasonable; a curse; harassing; operating in a disgusting way; appeals service is no guarantee of a fair hearing; loathed; outrageous scam; dodgy practice; outrageous abuse; unscrupulous practices; ''the British Parking Association is as much use as a multi-storey car park in the Gobi desert''; and finally, by way of unanimous conclusion: ''we need to crack down on these rogue companies. They are an absolute disgrace to this country. Ordinary motorists and ordinary residents should not have to put up with this''.

These are the exact words used, so you should quote them to your MP in a complaint and ask him/her to contact Sir Greg Knight MP if he wants further information about this scam.

beamerguy

You will be pleased to know that Trace Recovery are
only a timewasting "cannot do anything" debt collector
and of no importance to anyone except themselves.

The so called debt belongs to NCP and as NCP cannot
sell it to Trace, you are just being scammed and it's
up to NCP to pass it to solicitors and not Trace

NCP are not lovers of the court system since they
got a very hefty penalty a while ago

Suggest you ignore the Trace rubbish unless you
like dealing with scammers

NCP fork out £87,000 after towing car illegally
http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2013/08/ncp-fork-out-87000-after-towing-car.html

Jamesweir123

Yes they are upto date! Thanks for the reply. Was writing fast as needed to get toddlers to bed so wrote fines by mistake. I will look into sending an appeal and contacting mo and sir Greg Knight.

Can I also check that if after this letter I receive another from bw legal if I should respond? The same car park has processed a friends a few weeks ahead of me and they have just recieved a letter from them. I didn't know if that meant it would definitely be going to court or if because ncp would be unlikely. Does this firm buy off the debt from ncp?

Tia

KeithP

No-one will be buying a NCP debt.

beamerguy

Jamesweir123 wrote: »

Yes they are upto date! Thanks for the reply. Was writing fast as needed to get toddlers to bed so wrote fines by mistake. I will look into sending an appeal and contacting mo and sir Greg Knight.

Can I also check that if after this letter I receive another from bw legal if I should respond? The same car park has processed a friends a few weeks ahead of me and they have just recieved a letter from them. I didn't know if that meant it would definitely be going to court or if because ncp would be unlikely. Does this firm buy off the debt from ncp?

Tia

NO, BWLegal do not buy from PPC's, they do act for them
but you need to read about BWLegal ... unsmart is key

BWLegal - the list of failures growing
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5672664/bwlegal-the-list-of-failures-growing&highlight=bwlegal

Show your friends but also tell them that BWLegal have
many hoops to jump through before court.

They must show proof to you of their claim and that means
providing evidence to your satisfaction and then give
you 30 days to respond.

If that happens, come back here for the best free advice
from experts to beat them.

Do note when you read the link above that a lot of their
fabrications are duly dismissed by a judge ... wow

Coupon-mad

If I'd received a £60 fine I would have begrudgingly paid it

Why on earth would anyone pay a private parking charge?

Even a real one from the Council is mostly appealable (I have got one myself this week, will appeal and will win)!

But a private one, wow, why do people think they are to be paid? Glad you found this forum, read some NCP threads.

fisherjim

These are your Odds of NCP taking court action:


http://www.parkingappeals.info/companydata/National_Car_Parks.html

Jamesweir123

Hi Guys they have had a letter giving 30 days notice to court action. Please can you advise on how to respond?

Thanks