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Parking Eye - A very sticky situation.

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  • nigelbb
    nigelbb Posts: 3,819 Forumite
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    Johnersh wrote: »
    Indeed a more sophisticated system could prevent drivers entering registration numbers for vehicles that hadn't entered the carpark. The whole point of ANPR is automatic detection and logging of vehicles. That is done on entry - even before you park and pay.
    Indeed. I parked in a multi-storey car park in Nottingham city centre yesterday evening. Took a ticket at the barrier on entry then paid at the ticket machine before exit. When I got to the exit I was surprised when the barrier lifted without any intervention from me as ANPR had logged my car on entry & issued a personalised ticket complete with VRM so the system "knew" when I exited that the ticket had been paid.
  • JamesFews
    JamesFews Posts: 32 Forumite
    Johnersh wrote: »
    There is no loss for them to claim for. They can manually reconcile their system to check your payment. It's unattractive to argue that they want £100 in addition.

    If it all proceeds to a claim, make a settlement offer of £20 towards their notional admin (the manual reconciling of the data) whilst making clear that there is no loss or claim for them to otherwise pursue.

    As has been pointed out elsewhere, Beavis is not a panacea and in fact was considered/weighed up as to whether the charge was punitive. Here there is no overstay and no lack of payment.

    Indeed a more sophisticated system could prevent drivers entering registration numbers for vehicles that hadn't entered the carpark. The whole point of ANPR is automatic detection and logging of vehicles. That is done on entry - even before you park and pay.


    So should I use the popla code and appeal now or wait to see if they reply to my last letter offering them the £20?



    I have till this friday before the charge goes back up to £100 and I have till the 8th of June to appeal to Popla.
  • Le_Kirk
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    nigelbb wrote: »
    Indeed. I parked in a multi-storey car park in Nottingham city centre yesterday evening. Took a ticket at the barrier on entry then paid at the ticket machine before exit. When I got to the exit I was surprised when the barrier lifted without any intervention from me as ANPR had logged my car on entry & issued a personalised ticket complete with VRM so the system "knew" when I exited that the ticket had been paid.
    Yep, I've been in these and used them and it makes for happy parkers BUT not for happy PPC's who make no money as there are no defaulters - at least haven't come across a way of getting out without paying, especially if there is a barrier!
  • Half_way
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    JamesFews wrote: »
    It was a car park in Tintagel in Cornwall.

    ok, but Who's car park was it?
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
  • JamesFews
    JamesFews Posts: 32 Forumite
    Half_way wrote: »
    ok, but Who's car park was it?


    I have no idea. Its a public car park, been there for years and used to cost 50p. Then cha-ching in the eyes happened.
  • Castle
    Castle Posts: 4,956 Forumite
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    Half_way wrote: »
    ok, but Who's car park was it?
    Parking Eye per post 1
  • Half_way
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    Castle wrote: »
    Parking Eye per post 1
    If the OP can find the landowner, then that's who's car park it will be.
    Also if it was a public car park then it may be owned by a local council, in which case the could be issues with a PPC infesting what was a public car park.

    Only saying it'sva parking eye car park, is like saying it's a mittie supermarket, as they clean the floors and toilets.
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
  • I don't comment on POPLA as I know nothing about it. I defer to other on here as to that step. Conventional advice seems to be that it's worth a go.

    In my personal shoes I wasn't seduced by a "discount" to £60, but everyone is different and sometimes your time has a value too. I'd say the PPC imposed limits (as supposed to court fixtures or POPLA deadlines) are the least important considerations.

    If you've time and willing to fight a penalty in respect of parking that you paid for, then you're in the right place...
  • JamesFews
    JamesFews Posts: 32 Forumite
    Johnersh wrote: »

    If you've time and willing to fight a penalty in respect of parking that you paid for, then you're in the right place...


    Very willing to fight it but thought I had no chance of doing so until I came on here but now from what I have read it seems I have pee'd on my own chips by saying im happy to pay the £20 and saying that i was the driver.
  • Guys_Dad
    Guys_Dad Posts: 11,025 Forumite
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    JamesFews wrote: »
    I didnt say anywhere in the letter who was driving though.

    See post #9 and post #20.
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