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Freeholder refusing request for dog unreasonably

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  • AnotherJoe
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    It's cruel to keep a dog ina flat.
  • Smodlet
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    It is bad enough having to live across the road from a dog that barks at every little movement; worse to live the other side of a party wall from it in a semi detached house. Dogs do not belong in flats; neither do cats unless there is outside space to which they have very easy access.

    Try thinking about other residents for one second instead of only yourself! Would you want to be deprived of sleep because some selfish so-and-so decided they had a right to keep a dog in completely unsuitable conditions? Oh, the entitled generation!
  • Browntoa
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    LilElvis wrote: »
    You might want to Google search for the recent case where leaseholders challenged the refusal by the freeholder to allow them to keep their handbag dog in their apartment. The case cost the couple an eyewatering amount of money - and they lost.

    Edit: this is the case

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5330855/Couple-lose-court-bid-dog-luxury-flat.html

    And this


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/27/court-defeat-couple-bidding-keep-beloved-dog-gated-estate-no/
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  • bouicca21
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    It may be cruel to keep a dog in a small upstairs flat but even then it would depend on the owner. Plenty of flats with enclosed gardens, just as suitable as a house or bungalow.

    But leases often ban pets, and if it mattered that much then this particular flat was the wrong one to buy.
  • YoungBlueEyes
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    Just out of interest, what is "the perfect breed for apartment living"?
    I'm unsure about my spine, I think it's holding me back.
  • LilElvis
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    Just out of interest, what is "the perfect breed for apartment living"?

    One that's been purchased from a taxidermist :D
  • elsien
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    AnotherJoe wrote: »
    It's cruel to keep a dog ina flat.

    No it isn't, it depends on the temperament of the dog in question. I've had a bull terrier in a flat. We didn't use the communal garden but went for long walks instead and she was perfectly happy. As were the neighbours because she didn't bark or make a racket.
    But that's not what this is about. This is about the freeholders right or otherwise to without their consent as a blanket policy.
    All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.

    Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.
  • Red-Squirrel_2
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    AnotherJoe wrote: »
    It's cruel to keep a dog ina flat.

    No its not, not automatically anyway.

    Its cruel to keep a dog and not walk it or care for it properly, but living in a flat doesn't mean you can't do that.

    Loads of older people live in retirement flats with perfectly content and beautifully cared for dogs, just as an example.
  • suki1964
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    AnotherJoe wrote: »
    It's cruel to keep a dog ina flat.


    No its not

    Ive had a dog in a flat, from a 8 week old pup

    It wasn't ideal as we didn't have a private garden so he wasn't allowed out till all his injections had been done but other then that it was no different from having a dog in a house

    Unless you are the type who chucks a dog out into the garden on his own all day thinking thats good for them
  • [Deleted User]
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    Re: good breeder. I bought a dog from a highly recommended breeder. First dog, so I didn't know to look into what socialising was done. It was a large business with lots of dogs in kennels. I was assured they were socialised. But what we realised within months that our dog was a bit neurotic, and there hadn't been much socialisation at all. So be careful with breeders. I wouldn't buy from one again. Commercial isn't necessarily good for a well balanced dog (it wasn't a puppy farm but it was a commercial puppy breeding business).

    I recently got a GSD pup. We made sure it was from a family home, visited the home about 5 times to help the dog become familar with me (and Mum and dad were always there). This time, what I have is a lovely, well socialised and happy GSD.

    You purchased the flat knowing the lease said no pets. I think you are going to have to decide which is more important, where/what you live in or a dog. Personally, I think anyone who works should consider getting a dog very carefully.

    You may have to move to a cheaper area to get a house or a ground floor flat with garden where dogs will be happy and permitted if you can't presently afford that. Or give up on getting a dog.

    You could find a local rescue centre and work with dogs on a volunteer basis if you have a need to be around and giving to dogs?
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