Buying a 60s GF flat ideas for heating

robbrown92

Hi all, i have been trawling the internet looking for options. Basic run down is i am buying a one bedroom ground floor maisonette. going to be gutted pretty much, carpet throughout, bathroom kitchen and paint.

- There is NO GAS SUPPLY at all.
- Currently fitted with NSH that are as old as the flat most likely.

I am planning to install underfloor heating (electric) into the bathroom and kitchen under tiles as neither is heated currently and as the floor is coming up it made sense to do it.

The issue i have is heating the bedroom 4m x 3m and the living room 4.7m x 3.3m and also heating the water.

Currently there is an immersion tank fitted and it is also very old and takes up a LOT of potential kitchen real estate.

I see it i have a few options though not sure which is best.

-Install an electric boiler and run wet radiators in the bedroom,living room and hall. This would also supply hot water to the taps/bath. i could also get rid of the large tank and just have the boiler hidden in a cupboard.

-Modern storage heaters,,, i am out of the house from 06:30 until 18:30 monday to friday so feel that nsh would waste all that heat in an empty flat.

-Electric economic radiators perhaps by fischer

-Infrared electric heaters

Im not looking to spend more than ideally around £1500.

Wondering what people recommend, yes i know buying a little oil heater for £20 will do but that is not the finish i am looking for.

jk0

Stick with the storage heaters & hot water tank IIWY. If they're as old as you say, they probably get an afternoon boost, so should work quite well.

Robin9

Replace the storage rads by modern ones - much more compact than the 1960's type.

Replace the hot water tank with new immersion heaters.

Rethink your budget !

robbrown92

I would have thought £1500 is more than enough for 3 radiators? I would have though if keeping the immersion i could get a jacket to insulate it more potentially?

robbrown92

What about using infrared heaters ?

bwff

robbrown92 wrote: »

Hi all, i have been trawling the internet looking for options. Basic run down is i am buying a one bedroom ground floor maisonette. going to be gutted pretty much, carpet throughout, bathroom kitchen and paint.

- There is NO GAS SUPPLY at all.
- Currently fitted with NSH that are as old as the flat most likely.

I am planning to install underfloor heating (electric) into the bathroom and kitchen under tiles as neither is heated currently and as the floor is coming up it made sense to do it.

The issue i have is heating the bedroom 4m x 3m and the living room 4.7m x 3.3m and also heating the water.

Currently there is an immersion tank fitted and it is also very old and takes up a LOT of potential kitchen real estate.

I see it i have a few options though not sure which is best.

-Install an electric boiler and run wet radiators in the bedroom,living room and hall. This would also supply hot water to the taps/bath. i could also get rid of the large tank and just have the boiler hidden in a cupboard.

-Modern storage heaters,,, i am out of the house from 06:30 until 18:30 monday to friday so feel that nsh would waste all that heat in an empty flat.

-Electric economic radiators perhaps by fischer

-Infrared electric heaters

Im not looking to spend more than ideally around £1500.

Wondering what people recommend, yes i know buying a little oil heater for £20 will do but that is not the finish i am looking for.

Sounds like a nice little project you have set yourself up for there.

I can't really recommend anything, as you appear to be concentrating on what looks nice ... to you.
Only you know what you like.

Therefore, have a look at the available options, and choose the one(s) you like the look of the best.

bwff

robbrown92 wrote: »

What about using infrared heaters ?

What about using them?

If you like the look of them, then get some

robbrown92

Come on you know what i mean its not all about look however big ugly storage heaters are not particularly pleasing. And i see no point in a heating system that is unable to heat at all times and or needs to be expanded with additional heaters. just to be clear the £1500 budget is solely for heating.

Owain_Moneysaver

You can't get instantaneous electric water heaters more than about 10kW which is adequate for a shower, but not filling a bath. If you want a bath you really need stored hot water.

This one is 12 kW on a single phase supply, 15 kW on a three-phase supply. £1732.00 + VAT for heating and hot water.

An electric wet central heating system with radiators has all the disadvantages of a wet system (pipes, leaks etc) but not the cheap running cost of gas.

If you want 'nice' electric heaters you can get them a lot cheaper than the prices charged for Fischer and other heavily-marketed heaters, eg Dimplex Q Rad is £238 + VAT.

bwff

robbrown92 wrote: »

Come on you know what i mean its not all about look however big ugly storage heaters are not particularly pleasing. And i see no point in a heating system that is unable to heat at all times and or needs to be expanded with additional heaters. just to be clear the £1500 budget is solely for heating.

I'm sorry, but I have no idea what you mean.
I'm sure you can appreciate I cannot read your mind and so can only reply based on the information you provide.

All the space heaters can supply heat all the time, if that is what you want ... and can afford

If you correctly 'size' them to the space and environment, you will not need any additional heaters.

However, if you really do need heat 24/7, then storage heaters would be my recommendation as they do provide that ... and all from cheap rate electricity (assuming you don't try running them on a single rate tariff)

It now seems that you are on a restricted budget. You may well blow the £1500 on the underfloor haeting in the kitchen alone.
I know many people who don't have any designated space heating in their kitchen, and some have actively removed oit.
It depends on the kitchen, what you do there, how big it is, how well insulated it is, etc. But with most kitchens having a fridge, and even a freezer, perhaps a washing machine, perhaps even a tumble drier, a kettle on the go much of the time (rumour has it Gray Barlow heats his kitchen when required by popping the kettle on) and most people using the kitchen to cook (which requires heat), people often have no necessity for additional space heating.

But it's your money, and I am not here to to tell you how to spend it.

Please enjoy your new flat, the pleasure you will have refurbishing it (to your budget and style) and the further joy you will get from enjoying the falt once it is refurbished.

J_B

robbrown92 wrote: »

-Electric economic radiators perhaps by fischer

This post has been up for over five hours and nobody has picked up on this ...


'Economic'? Nooooo


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