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Planning crops up after moving in - help

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  • hammy1988
    hammy1988 Posts: 145 Forumite
    EachPenny wrote: »
    There is a new build development in the area, the local plan has this to say about it:-
    (My bold)

    These are all things which ought to ring alarm bells for someone purchasing a new build property. What are they, where are they, will they impact on me?

    For example, not many people want a floodlit multi-use games area as a neighbour. Having a tall building blocking the glare from the floodlights might turn out to be a benefit. :(

    I have no idea what area you are talking about lol, but this isn't mine for sure :)
  • EachPenny
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    hammy1988 wrote: »
    My Nan and Grandad are best friends with someone on the planning department so I've been going down that route today thankfully!

    Be really careful going down that route - planning decisions have to be taken without being improperly influenced and officers (and members) who have some kind of personal interest are required to declare it and (frequently) withdraw from the process.

    I'm not suggesting that your Nan and Grandad are doing anything wrong, but if the application were to be refused and it came to light that conversations had taken place, then the friend could find themselves in very deep water.

    If this is a wanted community facility in a small town then you can be fairly confident that things will come to light if there is anything not as it should be. :(
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  • ashe
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    hammy1988 wrote: »
    For some that may be a choice, luckily I've got a monetary lifeline thankfully, just feel sorry for the neighbours who might have to stay here!

    As someone else said, someone previously felt this way about your house. Buying a new build next to empty land and expecting it to stay that way is incredibly naive of you and any neighbours that alsonrxpected this. Land gets developed, your house is proof of this...but NIMBY!
  • Aylesbury_Duck
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    hammy1988 wrote: »
    My Nan and Grandad are best friends with someone on the planning department so I've been going down that route today thankfully!
    hammy1988 wrote: »
    For some that may be a choice, luckily I've got a monetary lifeline thankfully, just feel sorry for the neighbours who might have to stay here!
    Do you mean to come across as a precious, over-indulged NIMBY? It seems to me that you think that now you're in your new-build, your house is absolutely the last development there should be and that anything else is over-development.

    I wouldn't feel sorry for your neighbours if you move out, they've probably had a lucky escape because from the little you've put on here, you're possibly the sort of neighbour that will make people's lives difficult if they want to extend, erect a new fence, grow a hedge, park a car....
  • lincroft1710
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    Interesting that the proposed building will be 3 storeys high! This suggests a school.
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  • moneyistooshorttomention
    moneyistooshorttomention Posts: 17,940 Forumite
    edited 3 May 2018 at 8:27PM
    EachPenny wrote: »
    Be really careful going down that route - planning decisions have to be taken without being improperly influenced and officers (and members) who have some kind of personal interest are required to declare it and (frequently) withdraw from the process.

    I'm not suggesting that your Nan and Grandad are doing anything wrong, but if the application were to be refused and it came to light that conversations had taken place, then the friend could find themselves in very deep water.

    If this is a wanted community facility in a small town then you can be fairly confident that things will come to light if there is anything not as it should be. :(


    Rueful grin at that one - as the way I've seen small towns here operate consists of:

    It's there in a local newspaper that planning permission for building has been granted to someone local for something that would not receive planning permission for the "exact same property in exact same location" if it was someone non-local asking. I'm always gobsmacked when they're quite open about it and local councillors are there agreeing with it and even the newspaper sees nothing wrong with that:eek:

    Aware I'd be far too "objective/logical/fair" for some peoples liking if I were ever to become a local Councillor here:cool::rotfl:. It would either get it or not get it - and I literally wouldn't want to know just who it was wanting that planning permission (as it's irrelevant). My attitude would be "Don't tell me who/I don't want to know - all I want is the relevant facts".
  • Davesnave
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    Planning decisions always affect somebody, but in the case of a scheme which would benefit many and upset a few, the scales won't be evenly balanced. It's inevitable.

    The relevant question is whether the OP paid extra for the view of this green space, because my experience suggests it's only protected sites of one kind or another which carry a price premium.

    I inherited a property beside rural MoD land. It had enjoyed a pastoral outlook for decades, but no one paid extra to live there, because it was rumoured that 'one day' development would happen. It did, coinciding neatly with my short period of ownership!

    Like Sod's Law, as I renovated as prep for selling the place, Charles Church were busy on the other side of the fence putting up a 3 storey 5 bedder. As the build started, friends and neighbours commiserated with me: " Fancy, putting a big house like that next to your little bungalow!"

    But we all got it wrong. By the time I sold, it was clear that people in the big house couldn't see into my bungalow's garden or windows at all, thanks to our high hedge. My purchaser was from elsewhere, so she never knew or cared about the 'lost' view.

    So, to the OP, who appears to have mentally moved out already, I'd say wait to see how things pan out.
  • hammy1988
    hammy1988 Posts: 145 Forumite
    Davesnave wrote: »
    Planning decisions always affect somebody, but in the case of a scheme which would benefit many and upset a few, the scales won't be evenly balanced. It's inevitable.

    The relevant question is whether the OP paid extra for the view of this green space, because my experience suggests it's only protected sites of one kind or another which carry a price premium.

    I inherited a property beside rural MoD land. It had enjoyed a pastoral outlook for decades, but no one paid extra to live there, because it was rumoured that 'one day' development would happen. It did, coinciding neatly with my short period of ownership!

    Like Sod's Law, as I renovated as prep for selling the place, Charles Church were busy on the other side of the fence putting up a 3 storey 5 bedder. As the build started, friends and neighbours commiserated with me: " Fancy, putting a big house like that next to your little bungalow!"

    But we all got it wrong. By the time I sold, it was clear that people in the big house couldn't see into my bungalow's garden or windows at all, thanks to our high hedge. My purchaser was from elsewhere, so she never knew or cared about the 'lost' view.

    So, to the OP, who appears to have mentally moved out already, I'd say wait to see how things pan out.

    Maybe even not so much for the view, but more so for the proximity, I believe (or believed..) These houses by the edge of this community land were snapped up and were more expensive because it was the very edge of the development, away from the rat run of the site. South facing and looking on to these community lands.

    Like I say, I have a backup plan so I'm not that worried as such. Just was asking for anyone's advice if they had been through similar? certainly not interested in opinions, just someone who's actually experienced similar and could have given me a pointer on what the steps in place to object this sort of thing would be.

    Big thanks to those with constructive articulate answers :D
  • hammy1988
    hammy1988 Posts: 145 Forumite
    I think some people are jumping to a conclusion far too easy and getting too excited to spout their opinions without actually taking in what I've said LOL. The 'green' area...is an established sports community and leisure ground that has been in this area for decades. All developments have been built up around this area, this field is not earmarked for housing.

    Its protected and run by the parish council and I would give away more details but I don't want to jeopardise plans being set in place.
  • mije1983
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    hammy1988 wrote: »
    certainly not interested in opinions,

    Probably best not to post on an internet forum then :D;)



    My 'opinion' is that if it...
    is an established sports community and leisure ground that has been in this area for decades
    then it's likely being developed due to a need in the community. The parish council wouldn't spend money on it for the sake of it.

    Therefore if it is benfitting hundreds (you don't say how large this small town is) then that outweighs the negative on 6 properties. So unless you can come up with a lawfully valid objection then I fear you are not going to get it stopped, regardless of how close friends your grandparents are with one of the committee.
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