Parking restrictions

NeilCr

The_Slithy_Tove wrote: »

If it's one clearly identifiable individual, they surely better to go for that one person than treating everyone as the offender (which employing a PPC would have done). Better to "get legal" with that one person, clearly indicating how he is breaching the terms of the lease and risking forfeiture (the nuclear option).

We did all that. And he continued. He was a tenant and we went for the landlord. Nothing happened. And all of that takes a lot of time when someone is blocking emergency vehicle access

We were only at the discussion stage but the option we were being shown was that we, as a group, would take pictures ourselves of any offending vehicles and upload them to the parking company's website. There would have been no parking company personnel onsite.

Believe me, we didn't want to do it, but weekly having to find ways of getting the rubbish collected and the ongoing concerns about emergency vehicles was pushing us towards it.

Coupon-mad

We were only at the discussion stage but the option we were being shown was that we, as a group, would take pictures ourselves of any offending vehicles and upload them to the parking company's website. There would have been no parking company personnel onsite.

Ouch, not Combined Parking Solutions, surely? Lucky escape. Nonono.

NeilCr

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Ouch, not Combined Parking Solutions, surely? Lucky escape. Nonono.

We didn't get that far to know who it was! :D

It was a discussion with our managing agent about ways forward.

But, it's an interesting point. While I take on board the comments The SlithyTove made we went there and had no success. To go forward we would have to instruct solicitors blah blah blah which would have cost us and our residents money with a long road ahead of us with an intransigent landlord. And we had the ongoing issues with waste collection and access for emergency vehicles in the meantime.

So - a ticketing scheme we had control of was not that expensive and our residents were wanting something done. Not someone saying we've asked our solicitors to send a letter.

While I understand that this forum is about fighting tickets the whole MSE philosophy is about saving money which is one of the things we, as a manco, were looking at.

I accept that it may be heresy here but I'd be very interested in any suggestions that folks on this forum might have for dealing with this situation should it arise again. Which, in my experience, it will

After all, anything that doesn't involve a parking company must be good.

Coupon-mad

A good idea for a discussion - can I suggest you start your own thread?

NeilCr

Coupon-mad wrote: »

A good idea for a discussion - can I suggest you start your own thread?

Gosh. That's scary.

I don't normally come this way!

!:)

Coupon-mad

We like what you are saying, you sound very clued up for a MA!

NeilCr

Coupon-mad wrote: »

We like what you are saying, you sound very clued up for a MA!

Thanks.

We own the freehold so we have a much more personal interest in the way the estate is run. It's a nice place to live and we have no desire for conflict. But, sometimes, you get a resident who messes it up for everyone else.

I, personally, have been hugely against ticketing/permits/whatever but towards the end of this saga I could see no alternative.

It's worth remembering (and I volunteer in an advice agency so I hear this regularly') that often on forums you only hear one side of the story. I see posts on here and think "yeah right" I reckon I know what the other side may be saying. Particularly MAs introducing parking restrictions. In my experience MAs don't act unless there are quite a few residents kicking up a stink!

:cool::cool:

Umkomaas

But, sometimes, you get a resident who messes it up for everyone else.

That, in microcosm, is the reality across the entire private parking scene - a relatively small number of rogue parkers who irritate landowners who turn to PPCs offering 'free' car park management. PPCs find themselves pushing at an open door.

The rogue parkers are soon dispatched, leaving the rest of society facing out of control PPCs.

You are lucky not to have signed up a PPC to quickly rid you of your rogue parker, because your contract with them would likely be for a minimum of 3 years and their attention would need to turn to genuine residents in order that their outlay in setting up the signage and ongoing car park visits would be covered by income.

Even you wouldn't have been safe from them. It's been a very lucky escape in my view.

NeilCr

NeilCr wrote: »

Thanks.

We own the freehold so we have a much more personal interest in the way the estate is run. It's a nice place to live and we have no desire for conflict. But, sometimes, you get a resident who messes it up for everyone else.

I, personally, have been hugely against ticketing/permits/whatever but towards the end of this saga I could see no alternative.

It's worth remembering (and I volunteer in an advice agency so I hear this regularly') that often on forums you only hear one side of the story. I see posts on here and think "yeah right" I reckon I know what the other side may be saying. Particularly MAs introducing parking restrictions. In my experience MAs don't act unless there are quite a few residents kicking up a stink!

:cool::cool:

Umkomaas wrote: »

That, in microcosm, is the reality across the entire private parking scene - a relatively small number of rogue parkers who irritate landowners who turn to PPCs offering 'free' car park management. PPCs find themselves pushing at an open door.

The rogue parkers are soon dispatched, leaving the rest of society facing out of control PPCs.

You are lucky not to have signed up a PPC to quickly rid you of your rogue parker, because your contract with them would likely be for a minimum of 3 years and their attention would need to turn to genuine residents in order that their outlay in setting up the signage and ongoing car park visits would be covered by income.

Even you wouldn't have been safe from them. It's been a very lucky escape in my view.

Possibly.

But, I'd be very interested in your suggestions for dealing with a problem parker who has no concern for others safety or the effect they have on other residents.

"See other thread"

And, genuinely, it was on us to take the photos etc and void tickets. As I said we'd have operated with a very light touch (no touch at all if it worked on that specific resident)

Umkomaas

And, genuinely, it was on us to take the photos etc and void tickets. As I said we'd have operated with a very light touch (no touch at all if it worked on that specific resident)

And which PPC would allow you this 'light touch'. Once their feet are under the table they will tighten their hold and you will be expected to do as they say.

Many retail car parks started off as 3-hour stays, but are now down to 1-hour. Why? Because PPCs couldn't earn enough from 3-hours. But no doubt they would have persuaded the retailer that squeezing the time allowance would increase footfall and profit. They have the sales line.

But the reality - more people are avoiding car parks with PPCs at large, either going to non-infested facilities, or finding online shopping a better and much safer option. Or they are reading signs, spending little time in stores, making sure they don't get caught out by the PPC.

All of which is actually bad news for the retailer. Not such good news for the PPC either, as compliance by the motorist means no chance of issuing a PCN. But I suspect PPCs have a much shorter longevity plan than do the retailers.