Euro car park notice to keeper for not paying and displaying

mazzy49

Walsall Waterfront car park. I went for something to eat here, a week later I received this notice to keeper (ANPR) . I didn't notice any pay and display meters until driving past them on the way out . Help what is the best way to appeal ? I have read in the past to ignore them ?

Ralph-y

hi and welcome to the forum ....

please have a read of this thread .... the forum bible


https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4816822


and look at the below ....

https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2018-02-02/debates/CC84AF5E-AC6E-4E14-81B1-066E6A892807/Parking(CodeOfPractice)Bill

''Rip-offs from car park Cowboys must stop''; unfair treatment; signage deliberately confusing to ensure a PCN is issued; ''years of abuse by rogue parking companies''; bloodsuckers; ''the current system of regulation is hopeless, like putting Dracula in charge of the blood-bank''; extortionate fines; rogue operators; ''sense of injustice''; unfair charges and notices; wilfully misleading; signage is a deliberate act to deceive or mislead; ''confusing signs are often deliberate, to trap innocent drivers''; unreasonable; a curse; harassing; operating in a disgusting way; appeals service is no guarantee of a fair hearing; loathed; outrageous scam; dodgy practice; outrageous abuse; unscrupulous practices; ''the British Parking Association is as much use as a multi-storey car park in the Gobi desert''; and finally, by way of unanimous conclusion: ''we need to crack down on these rogue companies. They are an absolute disgrace to this country. Ordinary motorists and ordinary residents should not have to put up with this''.

These are the exact words used, so you should quote them to your MP in a complaint and ask him/her to contact Sir Greg Knight MP if he wants further information about this scam.

if you still have questions please ask ...

Ralph:cool:

mazzy49

I did read the Newbies and I did search but didn't really find any other pcn like my one
Plus I was in a bit off a hurry as I had an angry 10 year old breathing down my neck because i was eating into his technology time on the pc
I can't do this all on a phone
Please someone just say yay or nay do I ignore or try and appeal
I honestly did not notice any signs
7.30pm on a Sunday night ? It was an entertainment kind of park with Restaurants and cinema who would have thought you'd have to pay to park

Castle

Change your first post to remove the driver's identity.

KeithP

mazzy49 wrote: »

Please someone just say yay or nay do I ignore or try and appeal

You appeal.
Guidance on how to do that is in post #1 of the NEWBIES FAQ sticky thread.

When you read the NEWBIES thread, did you see this bit right near the beginning of the first post:

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Q - ''I have read the NEWBIES thread but cannot find anything specific to my case...my case is different''.

A - NO IT ISN'T. YOU DO NOT NEED SPECIFICS. FORGET THE DETAIL, MOST CASES ARE ALL THE SAME.

financerulez

You may be interested to see this:

http://www.bmpa.eu/companydata/Euro_Car_Parks.html

The_Deep

This is an entirely unregulated industry which is scamming the public with inflated claims for minor breaches of contracts for alleged parking offences, aided and abetted by a handful of low-rent solicitors.

Parking Eye, CPM, Smart, and another company have already been named and shamed, as has Gladstones Solicitors, and BW Legal, (these two law firms take hundreds of these cases to court each year). They lose most of them, and have been reported to the regulatory authority by an M.P. for unprofessional conduct

Hospital car parks and residential complex tickets have been especially mentioned.

The problem has become so rampant that MPs have agreed to enact a Bill to regulate these scammers. Watch the video of the Second Reading in the HofC recently.

http://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/2f0384f2-eba5-4fff-ab07-cf24b6a22918?in=12:49:41

and complain in the most robust terms to your MP. With a fair wind they will be out of business by Christmas.

mazzy49

Thank you everyone
It's shocking the amount of money they make
Now to try and work out how to copy the appeals letter without a printer

KeithP

Can you not appeal via their website?
No printer required for that - just copy and paste.

Remember, appeal as the keeper.

mazzy49

I've now printeed the template I re read the newbie thread so I'm just about to post Thanks again

KeithP

The guidance offered in the NEWBIES FAQ thread is:

DON'T POST IT BY ROYAL MAIL UNLESS YOU HAVE NO OTHER OPTION ON THE PCN. CERTAINLY NOT BY RECORDED DELIVERY - FORGET THAT! - ALWAYS USE THE ONLINE APPEAL PAGE - OR EMAIL IF OFFERED AS AN OPTION ON THE NOTICE - BECAUSE THE APPEAL CANNOT GET LOST AND YOU CAN KEEP PROOF/ A SCREENSHOT

Have you really no other option than Royal Mail?