We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: Hello Forumites! In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non-MoneySaving matters are not permitted per the Forum rules. While we understand that mentioning house prices may sometimes be relevant to a user's specific MoneySaving situation, we ask that you please avoid veering into broad, general debates about the market, the economy and politics, as these can unfortunately lead to abusive or hateful behaviour. Threads that are found to have derailed into wider discussions may be removed. Users who repeatedly disregard this may have their Forum account banned. Please also avoid posting personally identifiable information, including links to your own online property listing which may reveal your address. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
The Forum now has a brand new text editor, adding a bunch of handy features to use when creating posts. Read more in our how-to guide

Estate Agent Contract

Hi

My parents are currently waiting out a 14 day notice period with their estate agent who has sole selling rights and is still actively marketing the property until the end of this period. They will then be out of contract.

The contract states that the estate agent will be due commission if unconditional contracts are exchanged on the property in this period, even if they find the buyer themselves.

By exchange of unconditional contracts do they mean what we know as 'exchange' between the seller and buyers solicitor?

I.e. If they just showed someone (unconnected to the estate agents) round that they'd found themselves and accepted an offer in those 14 days would that be ok as contracts wouldn't actually be exchanged until far later.

Or do they have to wait the 14 days before they can even show someone else around/accept an offer?
«1

Comments

  • davidmcn
    davidmcn Posts: 23,596 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    I think "the estate agent will be due commission if unconditional contracts are exchanged on the property in this period" means no more than it says - i.e. it doesn't catch contracts exchanged some time afterwards. So letting someone merely view the property is fine.
  • ThePants999
    ThePants999 Posts: 1,748 Forumite
    Eighth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    That would be an unusual contract - are you SURE that's what it says? Because if that's all it says, you wouldn't even have to pay commission if they found your buyer, as long as you terminated the contract before exchange!
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    That is very unusual wording. Based purely on what yyou have written, yes, it seems you can do whatever you like at present as long as you delay Excange till the 14 days are up.

    (Incidentally, well done for negotiating a mere 14 day notice period).

    But please double check. It is far more likely tht if an introduction takes place during the contract period, which later results in Exchange, then a fee is payable.....
  • eddddy
    eddddy Posts: 18,430 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Hmmm... this reminds me of some especially 'nasty' EA contracts that I've seen (and have have had big arguments about with EAs).

    Look through the contract for a different clause about buyers introduced during the 'sole selling rights' period.


    The contracts I'm thinking of say...
    ...estate agent will be due commission if unconditional contracts are exchanged on the property in this period, even if they find the buyer themselves.

    Meaning that if a buyer was introduced before the 'sole selling rights' period, the EA wants commission if contracts are then exchanged during the 'sole selling right' period.


    Then another clause says that if a buyer is introduced during the 'sole selling rights' period, the EA wants commission if contracts are then exchanged after the 'sole selling rights' period.


    (This can leave the seller unable to avoid paying 2 lots of commission, in some circumstances.)
  • C_Mababejive
    C_Mababejive Posts: 11,668 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    EAs, mostly crooks in smart cars..
    Feudal Britain needs land reform. 70% of the land is "owned" by 1 % of the population and at least 50% is unregistered (inherited by landed gentry). Thats why your slave box costs so much..
  • Hi

    I've now read my parents contract myself.

    They had a 12 week contract and after that initial period a 14 day notice could be given.

    It's a sole selling rights agreement and under the commission section it says 'the client will be liable to pay remuneration to the agent in the following circumstances:

    1) If unconditional contracts for the property are exchanged in the period during which the agent has sole selling rights, even if the purchaser was not found by the agent.

    2) If unconditional contracts for the property are exchanged after expiry of the sole selling rights to a purchaser who was introduced by the agent during the sole selling period, then the client will be liable to pay commission to the agent if contracts are exchanged within 6 months after expiry.

    My parents are now in the 14 day notice period where the agent has sole selling rights but they don't know whether they can show other people round now/accept offers from people NOT introduced to them by the agent or if they have to wait the remaining 12 days?

    Does it just mean they can't exchange, as in solicitors 'exchange' in this period?
  • eddddy
    eddddy Posts: 18,430 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    So that's exactly the type of 'nasty' contract I describe in post #5.
    Hi
    My parents are now in the 14 day notice period where the agent has sole selling rights but they don't know whether they can show other people round now/accept offers from people NOT introduced to them by the agent or if they have to wait the remaining 12 days?

    No - they should no show people around who were not introduced by the EA. They must wait 12 days.

    Otherwise, they will end up having to pay the EA commission, if the house is bought by one of those people.
    Does it just mean they can't exchange, as in solicitors 'exchange' in this period?

    If they exchange contracts (as in solicitors exchange) with anyone during the next 12 days, the will also have to pay the EA's commission.

    Re-read post #5.


    Note: This is a nasty contract. If your parents go to another EA, and sign a similar contract - they could end up paying double commission.

    They must make sure that that the next EA's contract does charge commission for a buyer introduced by the current EA. i.e. This clause would be unacceptable in the next EA's contract as it stands:
    1) If unconditional contracts for the property are exchanged in the period during which the agent has sole selling rights, even if the purchaser was not found by the agent.
  • AnotherJoe
    AnotherJoe Posts: 19,622 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Fifth Anniversary Name Dropper Photogenic

    My parents are now in the 14 day notice period where the agent has sole selling rights but they don't know whether they can show other people round now/accept offers from people NOT introduced to them by the agent or if they have to wait the remaining 12 days?

    I'd wait the 12 days, simply because the original EA may claim that the eventual purchaser discovered the property through an advert of theirs in that period. Unless there was a clear and provable situation eg a friend or relative. But you wouldn't want, for example the chance of someone who saw their for sale board being raised. So I'd take that down as a starter, with photos.
  • dunroving
    dunroving Posts: 1,903 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    As with others, I'd say don't take the risk. If buyers haven't been found in several weeks, presumably there isn't a horde of buyers waiting to view, so a 12-day delay won't hurt, just to be sure.
    (Nearly) dunroving
  • Thanks all. Confirms what we thought. It's just not worth it for 12 days!

    I have to admit though, I don't really understand the stuff about it being a 'nasty' contract?

    Surely this clause is fair enough? If my parents eventually did sell to someone who originally viewed through the original estate agent then the original estate agent should get the commission as they did the work? Or am I just misunderstanding/being naive?

    1) If unconditional contracts for the property are exchanged in the period during which the agent has sole selling rights, even if the purchaser was not found by the agent.
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 353.5K Banking & Borrowing
  • 254.2K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 455K Spending & Discounts
  • 246.6K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 602.9K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 178.1K Life & Family
  • 260.6K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.