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Cyclists undertaking: what's the penalty (if any)?

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  • Mercdriver
    Mercdriver Posts: 3,898 Forumite
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    @Nasqueron, @Car54, thanks for the clarifications. I admit I didn't remember rule 77; I dare say it seems quite stupid, to be honest. AFAIK there is also no obligation to wait in the cyclists' box when it is feasible to do so, nor to use a cycle lane where available.

    No there isn't. They are often full of glass and debris resulting in punctures.
  • Car_54
    Car_54 Posts: 8,943 Forumite
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    Nasqueron wrote: »
    You keep using the wrong word.

    Undertaking is what cars do, specifically moving left, passing a vehicle and moving back out right again.

    Filtering is what bikes and motorbikes can do, specifically passing through stationary or slow moving traffic.

    It is not illegal (but it is stupid) to filter past a vehicle indicating left as you're likely to get hit and end up with the bill, it is similarly stupid to try and go straight on from alongside a car indicating left in a left hand turn lane. You might get done for careless cycling if the police deemed it worth prosecuting but it's more likely to be a civil insurance issue

    No, undertaking is what funeral directors do.

    Overtaking is passing another vehicle, either on the left or right, including so-called "filtering".
  • SouthLondonUser
    SouthLondonUser Posts: 1,445 Forumite
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    Well, I'd say that the undertaking by cyclists gives a lot of work to undertakers and funeral directors...
  • Nasqueron
    Nasqueron Posts: 11,049 Forumite
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    Car_54 wrote: »
    No, undertaking is what funeral directors do.

    Overtaking is passing another vehicle, either on the left or right, including so-called "filtering".

    Arguing semantics just shows you don't have an argument, if you want to call it overtaking on the left or undertaking, you do so but drivers (e.g. the OP who has used the word through this post) know what undertaking is, nobody except maybe the police or pedants would refer to it as overtaking on the left

    Filtering is not "so called" in any sense but your own mind, it's called that in the highway code, it's an entirely separate thing to overtaking

    e.g.

    Rule 88 Additionally, when filtering in slow-moving traffic, take care and keep your speed low.
    Rule 151 In slow-moving traffic. You should... be aware of cyclists and motorcyclists who may be passing on either side.
    Rule 211 It is often difficult to see motorcyclists and cyclists, especially when they are coming up from behind, coming out of junctions, at roundabouts, overtaking you or filtering through traffic.

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