Joiner broke worktop by hacking grooves with a saw

Hello,

We are having a kitchen fitted. We have an oak worktop and we asked our joiner if he could put in 5 drainer grooves next to the sink. He spent about 3 hours doing this then came to tell me his saw had broke while he was doing it and caused damage to the wood in the process which wasn’t repairable. I have therefore ordered a new worktop. He’s due to start again with it tomorrow but I am worried. The grooves he created before this happened are extremely deep and not completely equal/identical. I have since googled this and have seen people create much better grooves - the kind I am after not using a saw but instead using this sander thing called a router.

I am really worried what should I say to him? Should I ask him to buy this equipment? Im sure he will refuse or make me pay for it. I’m stuck currently with half a kitchen in place.
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  • pramsay13
    pramsay13 Posts: 2,109 Forumite
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    3 hours?
    What kind of saw was he using?
    I assume oak worktops aren't particularly cheap so you should make sure you will be happy with the quality of work.
    Why not show him the kind you mean on a screen and see what he says?
    If he can't manage get him to fit the workshop and get someone else in to do the grooves later.
  • z1a
    z1a Posts: 2,522 Forumite
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    Yep, definitely a router needed, can't imagine how he thought it would look good with any kind of saw.
  • Doozergirl
    Doozergirl Posts: 34,057 Forumite
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    Any carpenter should have a router. I'm amazed that he doesn't. Where did you find him?

    Oak worktops are a royal pain, you know. I wouldn't be draining anything anywhere near them or you'll be buying yet another worktop.
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  • Aylesbury_Duck
    Aylesbury_Duck Posts: 15,393 Forumite
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    Yes, the two questions that came to my mind were: A saw to create drainage grooves? And: An oak draining board?
  • Ruski
    Ruski Posts: 1,628 Forumite
    He should also use a jig to give a slope to the grooves otherwise they'll just keep standing water in them :(

    I assume you have an undermount sink / belfast sink : drip grooves should also be cut into the underside of the worktop around the aperture - has he done this??

    HTH

    Russ
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  • Help1234
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    OK I think our plan is just get him to finish the kitchen and not put any grooves in this new worktop.

    Please can you clarify what you mean by:
    Drip grooves should also be cut into the underside of the worktop around the aperture.

    I!!!8217;m not sure what this means or how to check but I expect the answer is no.
  • flashg67
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    Agree - I'd ask him to leave it alone. Can't believe he tried to cut them by hand. I'm just an averagely keen DIYer and I have a router - sure it wasn't more than £30. Does need a jig to slope the grooves too.

    Google 'worktop drip groove' will give you the general idea. You may have seen them on exterior window sills too
  • Help1234
    Help1234 Posts: 464 Forumite
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    Here are the pics

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  • Doozergirl
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    Was he trying to dig for Australia?
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  • System
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    wow, I'm pretty awful at diy, but I reckon I could have had a better go than that!
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