Another roundabout accident - my fault or 50:50?

System

Roland_Sausage wrote: »

Yep, I suspected as much.

I suppose the lesson learned is to always expect the unexpected when it comes to other drivers.

No, the lesson to be learned is to make sure the vehicle in front of you has actually entered the roundabout before you decide to set off.

Nodding_Donkey

G_M wrote: »

Did you really need to ask?

You do realise that you are responsible for where you drive, and not driving into other cars, yes?

What if a pedestrian had stepped in front of your car just as you were "looking to the right"? You wouldn't be here asking a hypethetical question - you might have been facing a charge of causing death by careless (or dangerous) driving.

What an absolute crock.

AdrianC

I did exactly the same thing, back when my licence was new. It's a very easy mistake to make - you see the car in front start to move, and assume that they've not stopped again while you're looking at the gap. Easy mistake, common mistake - YOUR mistake.

Roland_Sausage

G_M wrote: »

Did you really need to ask?

You do realise that you are responsible for where you drive, and not driving into other cars, yes?

What if a pedestrian had stepped in front of your car just as you were "looking to the right"? You wouldn't be here asking a hypethetical question - you might have been facing a charge of causing death by careless (or dangerous) driving.

That's a bit dramatic.

I was going no faster than 5mph. I'm pretty sure that wouldn't kill even the feeblest of pedestrians.

Any pedestrian stepping into the path of a moving vehicle, would have to share at least some of the responsibility.

And why would it be considered dangerous driving to be looking to the right whilst approaching a roundabout? That is what you are supposed to do.

AdrianC

Roland_Sausage wrote: »

Any pedestrian stepping into the path of a moving vehicle, would have to share at least some of the responsibility.

How about crossing in front of a stationary vehicle that then moved off?

And why would it be considered dangerous driving to be looking to the right whilst approaching a roundabout? That is what you are supposed to do.

Not to the exclusion of looking in front of you. This is where this thread has come from, after all...

Roland_Sausage

Tarambor wrote: »

No, the lesson to be learned is to make sure the vehicle in front of you has actually entered the roundabout before you decide to set off.

They had. At least half of their car was over the line when they decided to stop again.

However fair point which I accept.

Roland_Sausage

AdrianC wrote: »

How about crossing in front of a stationary vehicle that then moved off?

Yes, that would be a problem, but is not even remotely like what happened, so probably no point in going into the very dramatic "what if's"

Not to the exclusion of looking in front of you. This is where this thread has come from, after all...

Yes, it has been a lesson learned.

I have seen it happen at T-junctions as well when someone starts moving off, then has a last minute change of heart whist the driver behind has already begun his move. It's probably a common cause.

Frozen_up_north

This is why many cars now have forward looking collision avoiding radar fitted as standard. Reduces insurance costs too.

Collisions at junctions and roundabouts are very common, often the result of inattentive drivers.

arcon5

Such a long post.... for what is merely a rear end shunt. The simple fact is you crashed in to the back of somebody not paying proper attention to cars in front.