Why should you SORN a car on private land

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They send out £80 fines but do you really need to pay it? What will happen, they send a few debt collectors until they get board and move on.

AdrianC

Deleted_User wrote: »

They send out £80 fines but do you really need to pay it? What will happen, they send a few debt collectors until they get board and move on.

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AdrianC wrote: »

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But do you not just claim that you sent it in the post and that Royal Maily lost it?

Either way I've never had that problem as I always tax or SORN when required without fail.

Gloomendoom

AdrianC wrote: »

But since any vehicle that isn't taxed must legally be SORNed, there's no functional difference.

Well, I s'pose there is the very tiny handful of vehicles that haven't changed keeper or been taxed since 1998...

There is. I have three. Registered, untaxed, uninsured and not SORNed

System

onomatopoeia99 wrote: »

The reason the law was changed is more difficult. Apparently the Labour government didn't trust us (which will come as a huge surprise to no-one), so thought if we let the tax run out that meant we were using the vehicle untaxed. So they changed it to force us to declare the vehicle was off road, as if that somehow made a difference to people using untaxed vehicles.

Actually it was to address the practice of people buying cars with tax on and driving them around without insurance, something that was popular with Eastern European migrants and certain lowlife. At the time it came into force the Police with ANPR could check a car was taxed but they couldn't check it was insured, the Motor Insurance Database was only created in 2009 and access to it via ANPR checks weren't available for a few years after so whilst an officer could find out if they radio'd in when they'd stopped you, a random ANPR check as you were being followed wouldn't show if you were uninsured so the likelihood of being caught without insurance in a taxed car was quite low.

It was common knowledge around the local auction circuit that if you wanted to get daft money for your banger you put it through with several months road tax on it instead of cashing it in.

Johno100

Tarambor wrote: »

Actually it was to address the practice of people buying cars with tax on and driving them around without insurance, something that was popular with Eastern European migrants and certain lowlife.

Given that none of the Eastern European countries had joined the EU, so facilitating free movement, when the SORN legislation was enacted I somehow doubt that was the reason.

AdrianC

Johno100 wrote: »

Given that none of the Eastern European countries had joined the EU, so facilitating free movement, when the SORN legislation was enacted I somehow doubt that was the reason.

Hush with your facts and reality...

It was actually everything to do with the then-popular hobby of skipping a month. Your tax disc expires at the end of March, you tax it from May...

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If you declare your garden an independent state, then EU/UK law wouldn't apply, and you wouldn't need to SORN, insure or tax your car whilst in your own state.

I don't think you would need to tax it whilst "visiting" the UK either.

Problem solved!

AdrianC

DVLA_rebellion wrote: »

The road tax run out, and I didn’t have the original letter sent to SORN or tax the car. I called DVLA and explained, their reply was we’ll issue you another letter which they did with the long number on it

I've just noticed this bit in the original post, which nobody's actually addressed.

It is, of course, utter codswallop. DVLA would actually have said "Just use the doc ref on the V5C, then."

Johno100

AdrianC wrote: »

I've just noticed this bit in the original post, which nobody's actually addressed.

It is, of course, utter codswallop. DVLA would actually have said "Just use the doc ref on the V5C, then."

Try post #6 by yours truly.