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UKPCM PCN "Outside of Marked Bay"#2
louiemiro
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Hi. Apologies for starting a new thread on this matter, but haven't any replies to latest question... This is follow on from thread UKPCM PCN "Outside of Marked Bay" from 7th Feb 18 at 12:09 AM https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5789760
Hello again folks. Would welcome a little extra help on next steps. A "Formal Demand" has now been received from UK CPM. (is this a NTK?)
Am at point of appealing to UKCPM (as this is the next step as suggested in sticky.)
Just checking.... that this should be the next step, AND:.. there are a few further questions....
(i) CPM has sent a letter (Final Demand) with 2 images of vehicle in question within it.
Neither clearly show any reg plate of the vehicle, and so neither could be used to identify said vehicle and hence, as sole evidence of any infraction. Even together they wouldn't.
(ii) Also the vehicle in question is clearly shown parked 99 % within the parked bay, but with one wheel slightly turned and slightly over a line, and an edge of a bumper slightly over a line. This is clearly a case of over zealousness, the vehicle is for all intents and purposes within a bay, and someone here imagines that "De minimis" would apply, i.e. that any court would consider any "contract" for all intents and purposes fulfilled, and throw it out.
So.... question is, should these two points be mentioned in any appeal? or stick to the template?
Any thoughts welcomed. will be off line soon for a bit, so be kind... if someone doesn't immediately respond to any kind advice but rest assured, your help is very much appreciated.
Thanks
SORRY:.. Also....
(iii) UK CPM state...
...on the PCN itself that appeals should be "in writing"
....On their website they say:
All appeals must be made in writing and sent to:
Appeals Department
UK CPM
PO Box 3114
Lancing
BN15 5BR
And on their Final Demand they say:
"All enquiries must be in writing"
No email or online appeal option is offered.... but on their normal contact page there is an email address.
Wise to send to their email address?? (that IS "in writing" and would give me a record of sending) but would not be sent "to their postal address."
or to write long hand to their postal address?
or both??
Thoughts welcomed please. (Have hunted for other threads that cover this, honest)
Thanks
Hello again folks. Would welcome a little extra help on next steps. A "Formal Demand" has now been received from UK CPM. (is this a NTK?)
Am at point of appealing to UKCPM (as this is the next step as suggested in sticky.)
Just checking.... that this should be the next step, AND:.. there are a few further questions....
(i) CPM has sent a letter (Final Demand) with 2 images of vehicle in question within it.
Neither clearly show any reg plate of the vehicle, and so neither could be used to identify said vehicle and hence, as sole evidence of any infraction. Even together they wouldn't.
(ii) Also the vehicle in question is clearly shown parked 99 % within the parked bay, but with one wheel slightly turned and slightly over a line, and an edge of a bumper slightly over a line. This is clearly a case of over zealousness, the vehicle is for all intents and purposes within a bay, and someone here imagines that "De minimis" would apply, i.e. that any court would consider any "contract" for all intents and purposes fulfilled, and throw it out.
So.... question is, should these two points be mentioned in any appeal? or stick to the template?
Any thoughts welcomed. will be off line soon for a bit, so be kind... if someone doesn't immediately respond to any kind advice but rest assured, your help is very much appreciated.
Thanks
SORRY:.. Also....
(iii) UK CPM state...
...on the PCN itself that appeals should be "in writing"
....On their website they say:
All appeals must be made in writing and sent to:
Appeals Department
UK CPM
PO Box 3114
Lancing
BN15 5BR
And on their Final Demand they say:
"All enquiries must be in writing"
No email or online appeal option is offered.... but on their normal contact page there is an email address.
Wise to send to their email address?? (that IS "in writing" and would give me a record of sending) but would not be sent "to their postal address."
or to write long hand to their postal address?
or both??
Thoughts welcomed please. (Have hunted for other threads that cover this, honest)
Thanks
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Comments
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Starting a new thread every time you think of a new question is not the way to go.
Please keep to one thread.
Suggest you copy your post above to you existing thread and the replace the text above to something like "Duplicate thread - please ignore".0 -
And on their Final Demand they say:
"All enquiries must be in writing"
Clear enough, read this,
https://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=navclient&hl=en-GB&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GUEA_en-GBGB707GB707&q=letter&gws_rd=sslYou never know how far you can go until you go too far.0 -
Will do. Thanks0
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