PCN, no photo on the time of arrival.

latteholic

This questions is regarding my previous post and I still need some help regarding their photographic evidence.

latteholic wrote: »

3. I dropped my son at his primary school again and rushed to my university and parked my car in the parking space of the university (only 60 mins short stay free, no pay and display available) as I didn't want to miss the lecture, which was supposed to start from 12:30 PM (to 1:30 PM for 1 hour). I don't exactly remember exactly when I arrived the parking area but I guess it would be between 12:28-1:30 PM.
4. I was fully aware of that I am eligible to park there for 60 mins and no doubt that I would move the car before the allowance.
5. My session was supposed to last from 12:30 PM to 1:30 PM. However, when I arrived in front of lecture room, the instructors said the room was double booked accidentally so there was another lecture was going on with other people. Therefore we (students and 2 instructors) all together waited for 30 mins in front of the lecture room.
6. The session started delayed - without previous notice- from 1:00 PM and finished at about 2:00 PM, that means eventually I had to park my car for 90 mins (12:30 - 2:00 PM). I have two contact points that verify this situation.
7. When I got back to my car about 2:00 PM (it only takes 1-2 mins from the lecture room to the parking space), I found a yellow windscreen PCN from the university. (£80, discount £30 within 14 days)

[Their Evidence]
The university uploaded 9 pictures of my car, which were taken at 13:55 and 13:56 PM. There was no picture before that time.
However, on their windowscreen PCN they indicated my car was parked there from 12:27 PM so that's why they issued PCN at 13:56 PM. I am not sure whether they really took picture at 12:27 PM or not but they didn't upload the arrival picture on their evidence page. All the pictures they uploaded were took 13:55 and 13:56 PM

[What I did up to now] made a appeal to the university on 8 Feb 2018
There PCN indicates that I can appeal against the PCN via their online site.
So I explained all the things, which I mentioned above, including my full name, my address, the instructors' name and email address, and the dentist telephone number and address.
What a silly thing I did!!!!!!

[What I got after the appeal] got a reply on 9 Feb 2018
The university sent me a reply letter to my address, just 1 day after I submit my appeal online, with a reject as follows. (What a super fast response although I wrote a lot!).

The university uploaded 9 photos of my car as their evidence for PCN on uni website but there are no photo showing the arrival time of my car. All the photos were only taken between 1 minute (at 13:55 and 13:56 PM). But on their PCN, they said the first seen time is 12:26 PM (but no photo) and PCN issued time is 13:56 PM. Actually I'm not sure whether I was really arrived at 12:26 PM as I was thinking I was late for the lecture.

And there is no camera or bars in the uni parking area. If it is correct the first seen time is 12:26 PM. then this mean they were hiding somewhere and then showing up as soon as I arrived the car park and recorded my arrival time. Is this possible?

They rejected my appeal (reaon: the lecture started/delayed in 30 mins).
Then can I make a complaint to the uni indicating they failed to provide me with the photographic evidence showing when I started to park my car there? (Do you think they have the photo taken?) What do you recommend me to write? Is there any Act that I can support my complaint? Thanks.

twhitehousescat

please return to your original, posting , your problem is with the uni , not the uni gistaopo that issued ticket

pogofish

Don't make the mistake of thinking that photo 'evidence' means anything in PPC-land.

latteholic

twhitehousescat wrote: »

please return to your original, posting , your problem is with the uni , not the uni gistaopo that issued ticket

I really wanted to get answer whether I can make a complaint to uni as they didn't provide a photo on arrival of my car, but couldn't get answer until today midnight so........... asked again.. sorry..
What is gistaopo?

latteholic

pogofish wrote: »

Don't make the mistake of thinking that photo 'evidence' means anything in PPC-land.

Does this mean nothing will be changed whether they provided me photo evidence when I arrived or not?

The_Deep

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]http://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/2f0384f2-eba5-4fff-ab07-cf24b6a22918?in=12:49:41[/FONT]

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pogofish

latteholic wrote: »

Does this mean nothing will be changed whether they provided me photo evidence when I arrived or not?

Pretty much - yes.

Photos only have very minor evidential status in legit/legally regulated parking but in private parking they mean nothing at all beyond being yet another tactic to browbeat the victim.