BMW 2 Gran Tourer v Ford Focus Grand C-Max

Chontoman

Hello all,

First time poster here.

I would like some opinions on two options for a possible car purchase. We want to buy a used compact seven-seater with automatic gearbox, no more than 3 years old.

My main choice has been the Ford Focus Grand C-Max, which seems to be a good compromise between size, space, specs and price. I was also considering the Kia Carens, but when I look for models with the automatic gearbox and slightly better specs, the price jumps considerably.

Other choices like the Gran Picasso and the Grand Scenic were quickly discarded because they are too big. We are mostly interested in the third row of seats for occasional use only.

I recently discovered the BMW 2 Gran Tourer is priced only a couple thousand pounds more than similar Grand C-Max models and my curiosity was piqued. I've since learnt that the two models have similar tax and insurance bands, which has made me consider whether the upgrade to the BMW would be worth it.

My main questions would be, first, why is the BMW 2 Gran Tourer being sold at such a relative discount? Also, what premium in maintenance costs can I expect from the BMW? I'm willing to consider 20%~30% higher repair/running costs, but I suspect they will be much higher. Any users of either model recommend or not the cars? Finally, any other obvious differences I may be missing (mostly related to costs)? I don't care too much about the driving experience or design for a family car like this.

Thanks in advance for any advice!

daveyjp

The gran tourer isn!!!8217;t a popular vehicle, but they need to sell some so have to discount.

If the C max has the Powershift box don!!!8217;t go anywhere near one out of warranty.

forgotmyname

Insurance bands mean very little to the premium.

A group 17 car was much cheaper to insure than a group 13 car.

Swapped a Group 22 car for a group 26 one and it cost me an extra £2.87

RichardD1970

We have a Grand C-Max Titanium +, although older than what you are looking for (62 reg).

Really don't like the BMW and the extra price is (imho) only due to the badge.

The C-Max is well spec'ed and nice to drive. The main reason for choosing this was the sliding rear doors which we wanted for ease of access for elderly relatives. Although I do think the extra weight does have an impact on economy and performance.

mgfvvc

I drive a Grand C-Max. I can't compare it to the BMW, but it suits us well. It handles nicely, but the 1.6 petrol I have is not that powerful for a car of its weight. The electronics in the Zetec model (the bottom of the range) are fairly easy to use and not over complicated.

It seems quite reliable although the potholes around us take a toll on the wheels and tyres. Ours has the manual gearbox, I can't comment on Ford's auto gearboxes.

Ours is a 2011 car, so if you are buying nearly new you will be getting a newer model and things may have changed.

System

Chontoman wrote: »

Also, what premium in maintenance costs can I expect from the BMW? I'm willing to consider 20%~30% higher repair/running costs, but I suspect they will be much higher.

Oh yeah, much much higher especially for servicing and parts. BMW did do a 5 year/50,000 mile service pack though which is very good value however I'm not sure if you can get it on a used car.

Robisere

I ended my 3 year Motability lease of a C-Max 2.0 TDci Auto (not a Grand) last April and would have had another one if Ford had not increased the price of the deposit (they call it "a contribution") beyond what I could afford. If you can find a good 2.0 liter model, that is what I would go for. The 'extra weight' that mgfvvc speaks of, would not bother the 2.0 liter, which has 150 bhp and which I could regularly drive up a local steep hill without problems. I really loved that comfortable car and it returned good mpg figures, although the petrol would be better if you do not make reasonably long journeys.

knightstyle

We have had a 2ltr diesel Cmax for two years now. Really rate it as a great family car.
yes there have been problems with the powershift box but it gives a truly smooth automatic without the gas guzzling torque converter.
If you get one then make sure the gearbox is drained, flushed and refilled with the best oil when the service requires it. Do make sure the garage actually do this as some miss it as it takes time and is a pain to do properly.