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Halifax newbuild incentive limit?

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  • Non cash incentives such as you are getting DO NOT count as cash incentives so you will be fine. You could even ask them to pay your stamp duty and as you are putting 10% down you would be fine.
  • truehand
    truehand Posts: 5 Forumite
    edited 7 March 2018 at 8:08PM
    If the purchase does not involve help to buy, with a 19% deposit, would Halifax accept the stamp duty contribution corresponding to more than 6% of the house price offered by the builder? Thank you.

    Example: New build house price is £530K. Stamp duty is £32,400 (higher rate, as it's a second home) all of which is offered by developer. Would Halifax be OK with such an incentive if deposit is 19%? Is there an absolute maximum of 5% as some people claim?
  • kingstreet
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    truehand wrote: »
    If the purchase does not involve help to buy, with a 19% deposit, would Halifax accept the stamp duty contribution corresponding to more than 6% of the house price offered by the builder? Thank you.

    Example: New build house price is £530K. Stamp duty is £32,400 (higher rate, as it's a second home) all of which is offered by developer. Would Halifax be OK with such an incentive if deposit is 19%? Is there an absolute maximum of 5% as some people claim?
    5% maximum.
    I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.
  • truehand
    truehand Posts: 5 Forumite
    I just called Halifax to learn more about this. After checking their internal documentation they told me it's possible in my case:

    It depends both on the deposit you put in and the maximum you are allowed to borrow: "Total loan % + cash incentive % cannot be greater than YOUR MAXIMUM possible loan-to-value limit."
  • kingstreet
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    Good luck!
    Builder cash incentives include but are not limited to deposit contributions, cash-backs, contribution to legal fees/stamp duty, mortgage subsidies.

    Builder cash incentives will typically be acceptable provided the value of these does not exceed 5% of the lower of purchase price/valuation. Cash incentives in excess of this amount may result in a reduction in the maximum loan available. All builder cash incentives must be declared at the point of sale.
    You'll see anything over the 5% deducted from the valuation, just like a price reduction.

    You spoken to the builder about this?
    I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.
  • truehand
    truehand Posts: 5 Forumite
    kingstreet wrote: »
    Good luck!
    You'll see anything over the 5% deducted from the valuation, just like a price reduction.
    You spoken to the builder about this?
    "Cash incentives in excess of this amount may result in a reduction in the maximum loan available."

    The keyword is "may result", so it won't necessarily be applicable for all cases...

    Thanks, yes the builder is aware, and my Financial Adviser / broker who had said it would not work initially has just told me it should work after doing some investigative work, so fingers crossed. I'll update you after getting the mortgage approved. It may help others, too.
  • kingstreet
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    Yes.

    We do 400+ newbuild applications a year, many with Halifax.

    It never occurred to any of us to even try to challenge the 5% limit.
    I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.
  • truehand
    truehand Posts: 5 Forumite
    edited 16 March 2018 at 5:17PM
    Just to let you know, the mortgage was approved by Halifax, despite the incentive that is greater than 6.1% of the purchase price.
  • kingstreet
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    truehand wrote: »
    Just to let you know, the mortgage was approved by Halifax, despite the incentive that is greater than 6.1% of the purchase price.
    How did they deal with it? Did they reduce the purchase price/valuation by the excess?
    I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.
  • truehand
    truehand Posts: 5 Forumite
    They didn't reduce the purchase price. They noted and accepted the entire stamp duty as an incentive.
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