We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: Hello Forumites! In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non-MoneySaving matters are not permitted per the Forum rules. While we understand that mentioning house prices may sometimes be relevant to a user's specific MoneySaving situation, we ask that you please avoid veering into broad, general debates about the market, the economy and politics, as these can unfortunately lead to abusive or hateful behaviour. Threads that are found to have derailed into wider discussions may be removed. Users who repeatedly disregard this may have their Forum account banned. Please also avoid posting personally identifiable information, including links to your own online property listing which may reveal your address. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Guarantor

My daughter has returned from uni full of joy as she’s found a uni house next year for just three good friends. She needs a guarantor. I live with her stepdad and we rent at the moment. As he earns the lions share of our income we are thinking it’s best for him to be guarantor. Hopefully you can be a guarantor if you rent??

I’m lying awake researching what exactly we will be responsible for - I haven’t seen the contract yet. As per usual DD is lastminutepanic.com and everything needs to be with the agent tomorrow. I’ve worked out that I really don’t want to be responsible for her mates rents and that it needs to be the right wording for the tenancy and deposit scheme etc.

One of my main concerns is that we want to buy next year. Will this guarantor business affect our credit rating as it looks like we are paying her rent / she’s still a dependant?

What credit checks do letting agencies do on student guarantors? Will we need bank statements etc?

Looks like I’m going to have a sleepless night. Might get a cup of tea ...
«1

Comments

  • HampshireH
    HampshireH Posts: 4,997 Forumite
    Eighth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    I hope you got some sleep.

    To ensure you would never be liable for the whole rent and just your daughters she would need an individual tenancy agreement/deposit etc.

    If they all sign 1 document they are all liable if 1 doesn't pay. If none pay the guarantor is expected to.

    You dont say if the other 2 are getting guarantors or if they as a whole need one.

    Seems very rushed. Just make sure it's all read properly before she or you sign anything.

    You only need to search the forum to find the parents threads whose kids didn't read before they signed.
  • silvercar
    silvercar Posts: 49,897 Ambassador
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Academoney Grad Name Dropper
    One of my main concerns is that we want to buy next year. Will this guarantor business affect our credit rating as it looks like we are paying her rent / she's still a dependant?

    It shouldnt do. In fact I doubt the lender would be aware of it.
    What credit checks do letting agencies do on student guarantors? Will we need bank statements etc?

    Variable. Some do nothing, others check out credit rating and employment.

    Some dont execute the guarantor form as a deed, making it worthless.

    Bottom line is that if you dont agree to be a guarantor, you are restricting your offsprings rental opportunities to the private rentals that no one else wants or to live in halls again.
    I'm a Forum Ambassador on the housing, mortgages & student money saving boards. I volunteer to help get your forum questions answered and keep the forum running smoothly. Forum Ambassadors are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.
  • csgohan4
    csgohan4 Posts: 10,600 Forumite
    Ninth Anniversary 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    negotiate and see if the LL will accept 6 months upfront rent for example


    I wouldn't want to be a guarantor tbh, unless you have seen the small print and if your liable for the other house mates?
    "It is prudent when shopping for something important, not to limit yourself to Pound land/Estate Agents"

    G_M/ Bowlhead99 RIP
  • DCFC79
    DCFC79 Posts: 40,641 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Your credit rating is only seen by you, your credit history is what lenders see.
  • saajan_12
    saajan_12 Posts: 5,277 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Good news and bad news (x2)

    BAD 1) If daughter is on a joint & several agreement on one tenancy with her friends for a whole property, then each tenant is liable for the full rent, there's no 'shares'. So as her guarantor, you'd be liable for the whole rent + damage to the whole property. You can then claim off the housemates if you've agreed they'll pay x% of the rent, but if they don't pay, the LL can just chase you for everything.

    BAD 2) Most student LL's demand guarantors as the students don't meet affordability themselves, and will have enough offers who will oblige so if daughter doesn't have a guarantor, she won't get a good rental with her friends. The only way of avoiding being responsible for her friends' rent is to have an individual tenancy for her room only, but this is rare/more expensive.

    GOOD: Often the agent doesn't properly execute a guarantor deed, meaning you can agree to what they ask for to get the tenancy and then later point out the deed is invalid and get off the hook. Ofcourse they might just do it properly.
  • Comms69
    Comms69 Posts: 14,229 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Third Anniversary Name Dropper
    My daughter has returned from uni full of joy as she’s found a uni house next year for just three good friends. She needs a guarantor. I live with her stepdad and we rent at the moment. As he earns the lions share of our income we are thinking it’s best for him to be guarantor. Hopefully you can be a guarantor if you rent??

    I’m lying awake researching what exactly we will be responsible for - I haven’t seen the contract yet. As per usual DD is lastminutepanic.com and everything needs to be with the agent tomorrow. I’ve worked out that I really don’t want to be responsible for her mates rents and that it needs to be the right wording for the tenancy and deposit scheme etc.

    One of my main concerns is that we want to buy next year. Will this guarantor business affect our credit rating as it looks like we are paying her rent / she’s still a dependant?

    What credit checks do letting agencies do on student guarantors? Will we need bank statements etc?

    Looks like I’m going to have a sleepless night. Might get a cup of tea ...
    If the tenancy is joint (which is most likely will be) your husband will be on the hook for 100% of the rent, should they not pay. in addition any damage caused.
  • Thank you so so much everyone. I think the agent is a good one, my daughter did have the sense to get the contract checked out with the uni etc and as guarantor we are only responsible for her part of the rent (seen the for now). I think it!!!8217;s the best we can hope for rather than her not having anywhere to live next year. One of her friends is house sharing with 10 next year - at least the odds of damage are reduced with only 3 (who all seem sensible). I am on such a budget diet I!!!8217;m thrilled when I sell a £2 pair of gloves on eBay, only to be met with hundreds of pounds deposit so far in advance. Not sure how some families cope, although it takes a strong character to be a student landlord as well!
  • saajan_12
    saajan_12 Posts: 5,277 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    as guarantor we are only responsible for her part of the rent (seen the for now).

    Please quote the wording that makes you think this is the case, as I highly doubt that's correct.

    It may well still be the best choice as a family, but don't misunderstand the financial implication of making sure daughter has somewhere to stay with friends.
  • I!!!8217;ve not seen the wording yet (came through to my husbands email) but OH said it!!!8217;s for her £4000 only. I!!!8217;m guessing however that liability for damage rests with us and the other guarantors. It does say on the agents website that the students are jointly liable but guarantors only for their !!!8216;child!!!8217; (well adult). I!!!8217;m not sure any of it joins up really. Nice valentines evening ahead reading contracts. Yeay.
  • I’m going to stop using apostrophes ... sorry
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 352K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.5K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454.2K Spending & Discounts
  • 245K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 600.6K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.4K Life & Family
  • 258.8K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.