Are there really that many bad tradesmen around??

Ganga

buglawton wrote: »

I'm surprised no official survey has been done on customer satisfaction with tradespeople region by region of the UK. I suspect things are worst in London and it's commuter belt.

Is it not that London and it,s area is huge compared with other parts of the UK so therefor must have more trades people so probably more bad trade people:eek:

PhilE

Furts wrote: »

OP has commented about a heating engineer smashing asbestos in the home meaning OP had to vacate. The implication is OP is the innocent party and the heating engineer was a cowboy type. This may be so, but OP has (conveniently?) not mentioned their legal duties over this.

The law is strict when one considers every consumers duties under the CDM Regs. Hence it is reasonable to ask why OP was requesting the heating engineer to be working around asbestos.

Yes Furts, it was all a conspiracy. Well done.

PhilE

Risteard wrote: »

Not that surprising. Plumbers and kitchen fitters are invariably completely clueless about electrical installation, but frequently think they are competent to mess around with it.

This is why it should be illegal for non-Registered Electrical Contractors to engage in electrical installation work, as it is in many other jurisdictions.

There's all sorts of examples I could give on this forum alone, of tradespeople doing things they aren't supposed to be and or not qualified to do.

The consumer thinks he/she is protected because the tradesperson is gas safe etc, but if it hits the fan all the tradesperson has to do is declare bankruptcy and change their name.

buglawton

Ganga wrote: »

Is it not that London and it,s area is huge compared with other parts of the UK so therefor must have more trades people so probably more bad trade people:eek:

The best tradesmen I’ve had working for me were kitchen fitters who drove in from Wales every day, to Reading.

Zandy_23

Ever since we never experienced anything bad with them but we take caution and only hire those that are highly recommended by friends.

tony6403

Furts wrote: »

OP has commented about a heating engineer smashing asbestos in the home meaning OP had to vacate. The implication is OP is the innocent party and the heating engineer was a cowboy type. This may be so, but OP has (conveniently?) not mentioned their legal duties over this.

The law is strict when one considers every consumers duties under the CDM Regs. Hence it is reasonable to ask why OP was requesting the heating engineer to be working around asbestos.

This is not accurate for domestic clients..
Here are the rules : http://www.hse.gov.uk/construction/cdm/2015/domestic-clients.htm

AndyMc.....

PhilE wrote: »

He was and continues to be gas safe, NICEIC. Informed both of the situation, neither cared.

They tend not to listen so serial moaners.

pearl123

People don!!!8217;t serve apprenticeships any more, hence a decline in the quality of work.
Of course there are skilled tradesmen who take real pride in their work. There are also those who will take the quickest, easiest route to line their pockets.

comeandgo

pearl123 wrote: »

People don!!!8217;t serve apprenticeships any more, hence a decline in the quality of work.
Of course there are skilled tradesmen who take real pride in their work. There are also those who will take the quickest, easiest route to line their pockets.

Yes they do have apprenticeships, proper three or four year ones. You just have to check the qualifications they have.

Furts

pearl123 wrote: »

People don!!!8217;t serve apprenticeships any more, hence a decline in the quality of work.
Of course there are skilled tradesmen who take real pride in their work. There are also those who will take the quickest, easiest route to line their pockets.

A fact of life but there is also a harsh element here. These folks want to earn a living and show a profit - that is business. Equally there is a market for these folks - think no questions asked jobs, cash jobs, dodgy landlords, rough buy to let maintenance .. the list goes on.

What matters is if folks with standards engage these people. Here it is a simple matter of due diligence, and then managing and inspecting the work. Full payment occurs if the work is satisfactory. An every day story in any business transaction, and consumers could do likewise.