What extra taxes would you volunteer to pay?

westernpromise

cepheus wrote: »

Revenues will have to be found, whichever party is in, or else services will be even more severely struck.

I vote for services to "be even more severely struck". I like that alternative.

No matter how much money is poured into services, two things never change. One is that nobody ever expresses thanks to the taxpayers who fund it all, nor, as we've seen in this thread, does anybody ever say "Other people pay enough - it's about time I put my hand in my pocket." It simply never happens and never will. As we have seen here, if you invite people to name an extra tax they'd be prepared to pay, most of the replies will be from people proposing more taxes on other people.

The other thing that never changes is that no level of free money is ever enough for the recipients. The more they are given, the more the staff and the users want. It's what an NHS lifer might call an acutely hypertrophied sense of entitlement.

If you listened to their taxpayer-kept staff, the NHS, councils, race relations quangoes, the yartz, and everything else kept afloat by the taxpayer has been on the verge of collapse since for ever. This is because there is no point at which tax-consumers will concede that they have enough money; why would they?

lisyloo

Not strictly a tax but I would volunteer state pension of those receiving continuing health care i.e. everything (including food, heating, accomodation) paid for by NHS where this is a permanent state.
The will be an idealogical issue for some as state pension is an earned entitlement, but I am willing to volunteer it.

In the meantime I will continue to fo the best for my loved ones under the current rules (which is practice means fighting for CHC).

Jackmydad

westernpromise wrote: »

I vote for services to "be even more severely struck". I like that alternative.

No matter how much money is poured into services, two things never change. One is that nobody ever expresses thanks to the taxpayers who fund it all, nor, as we've seen in this thread, does anybody ever say "Other people pay enough - it's about time I put my hand in my pocket." It simply never happens and never will. As we have seen here, if you invite people to name an extra tax they'd be prepared to pay, most of the replies will be from people proposing more taxes on other people.

The other thing that never changes is that no level of free money is ever enough for the recipients. The more they are given, the more the staff and the users want. It's what an NHS lifer might call an acutely hypertrophied sense of entitlement.

If you listened to their taxpayer-kept staff, the NHS, councils, race relations quangoes, the yartz, and everything else kept afloat by the taxpayer has been on the verge of collapse since for ever. This is because there is no point at which tax-consumers will concede that they have enough money; why would they?

I have the answer!
People only pay for the policies they have voted for.
Make the voting a bit more complicated, but if you want more money for (Insert what you want taxpayers money for) and you vote for the party that has promised it, then you pay whatever it takes.
Very fair I reckon.

John-K_3

Or, another approach is that you get one vote for each pound you pay, net, into the treasury for the public good.

You start with a less than zero number, to cover the infrastructure and health cover that you had as a child, so it will take a few years to get a voting slip, but after that, you get one vote for net tax paid since the last election.

It could have a catchy slogan to get people behind it; !!!8220;No representation without taxation!!!8221;...

GreatApe

No that's silly

A federal UK with maybe each region collecting and spending it's own taxes might be reasonable. With maybe a federal income tax to pay for defense spending but everything else collected and spent in the region.

That way there would be some competition with the regions to be efficient at collecting and spending taxes. So you might have high tax socialist Scotland and low tax SE and people could choose to live in the region that most suited their economics and politics

westernpromise

Scotland would be bankrupt overnight and would simply demand English money.

Enterprise_1701C

westernpromise wrote: »

Scotland would be bankrupt overnight and would simply demand English money.

So no difference then :rotfl::rotfl:

Of course, if they were independent they could afford to continue as they are and do more things for their people :rotfl::rotfl:

Maybe with a 99% tax rate .................

As for the idea of the eu ever letting them join :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

westernpromise

An independent Scotland would continue to demand English money. It would have been one of the delights of Joxit to say No and then watch it dawn on them that they were bankrupt and didn't even have a currency. Even funnier would have been when they realised that by still-valid 1965 treaty none of the oil and gas in the North Sea belongs to them; it belongs to Denmark, Norway and the UK, and as the UK still exists, the oil would still be the UK's. The UK that no longer included Scotland.

It was a huge missed opportunity. When they came grovelling back wanting to rejoin the UK, that, of course would have required a new referendum - but only those in England, Wales and Northern Ireland would vote. Scotland could have had its own little vote, of course, but what would matter would be the result of the vote in the UK, which I think would have been No.

Herzlos

Scotland would be happily self-sufficient if parts of it's revenue weren't recorded as being English-derived. Plus, if we're such a drain, why not kick us out and move on to prosperity?

westernpromise wrote: »

One is that nobody ever expresses thanks to the taxpayers who fund it all, nor, as we've seen in this thread, does anybody ever say "Other people pay enough - it's about time I put my hand in my pocket." It simply never happens and never will. As we have seen here, if you invite people to name an extra tax they'd be prepared to pay, most of the replies will be from people proposing more taxes on other people.

Except for the posts offering to pay more taxes themselves, which you've continued to ignore. Which is rich, as you're the only one who actually suggested a reduction in tax.

You also seem completely ignorant as to how tax works and who pays it. Hint: you're not holding this country up on your own.

lisyloo

One is that nobody ever expresses thanks to the taxpayers who fund it all

Thankyou for the taxes you pay.

Mrs Nobody