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  • Lorenzo94
    Lorenzo94 Posts: 141 Forumite
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    I have submitted an application through them, and apparently the broker that they assigned me cannot get hold of the lender for updates. Long story short, I am phoning the lender directly to get updates as well as I managed to push and book the evaluation for the flat (which is the last thing needed after all paperwork have been submitted).
    It was very easy for me to get info from the lender directly, so I really do not understand how they cannot get hold of them. Also, I  emailed my broker two days ago informing them about the booked evaluations, and they didn't even bother to get back to me to reassure me etc.
    Another thing, they did not put my mobile number on the application so I cannot receive any phone update.
    Really disappointed as I did not want to chase the lender directly; also, I hope they haven't messed anything up during the application. But to be fair, I cannot really complaint as they are a free service.
  • amnblog
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    But to be fair, I cannot really complaint as they are a free service.
    Free means it can be slapdash?
    I am a Mortgage Broker

    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Broker, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • dunstonh
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    But to be fair, I cannot really complaint as they are a free service.

    Its not free.   They earn a commission and commission costs are factored into the cost of the deal.   Indeed, it is possible for fee based mortgage brokers to be cheaper than commission based (i.e. where the commission is higher than the fee, you get a refund of the excess commission).

    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • dunstonh said:
    But to be fair, I cannot really complaint as they are a free service.

    Its not free.   They earn a commission and commission costs are factored into the cost of the deal.   Indeed, it is possible for fee based mortgage brokers to be cheaper than commission based (i.e. where the commission is higher than the fee, you get a refund of the excess commission).

    The 2 times I have used L&C I have not paid a broker fee and the payment that they get from the lender is very clearly stated in the documentation. I have not found the services provided to be slapdash in any way.
    "Everything comes to him who hustles while he waits" Thomas Edison
    Following the Martin mantra "Earn more, have less debt, improve credit worthiness" :money:
  • dunstonh
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    dunstonh said:
    But to be fair, I cannot really complaint as they are a free service.

    Its not free.   They earn a commission and commission costs are factored into the cost of the deal.   Indeed, it is possible for fee based mortgage brokers to be cheaper than commission based (i.e. where the commission is higher than the fee, you get a refund of the excess commission).

    The 2 times I have used L&C I have not paid a broker fee and the payment that they get from the lender is very clearly stated in the documentation. I have not found the services provided to be slapdash in any way.
    That doesn't make it free.    It's the age-old debate about commission vs fees.       On investments, when they abolished commission and went to fees, a lot of people moaned about the fees.  However, the vast majority are better off as the terms on products and investments are so much better than the old commission terms that used to exist.   That commission is factored into the costs of supplying the product.
    For small mortgages, commission may be best.  For large mortgages, fee with commission offset can be cheaper than no fee.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • dunstonh said:
    dunstonh said:
    But to be fair, I cannot really complaint as they are a free service.

    Its not free.   They earn a commission and commission costs are factored into the cost of the deal.   Indeed, it is possible for fee based mortgage brokers to be cheaper than commission based (i.e. where the commission is higher than the fee, you get a refund of the excess commission).

    The 2 times I have used L&C I have not paid a broker fee and the payment that they get from the lender is very clearly stated in the documentation. I have not found the services provided to be slapdash in any way.
    That doesn't make it free.    It's the age-old debate about commission vs fees.       On investments, when they abolished commission and went to fees, a lot of people moaned about the fees.  However, the vast majority are better off as the terms on products and investments are so much better than the old commission terms that used to exist.   That commission is factored into the costs of supplying the product.
    For small mortgages, commission may be best.  For large mortgages, fee with commission offset can be cheaper than no fee.
    It was free to me. I checked the mortgage deals on offer and agreed with the mortgage they offered me. They got payment from the lender.
    "Everything comes to him who hustles while he waits" Thomas Edison
    Following the Martin mantra "Earn more, have less debt, improve credit worthiness" :money:
  • dunstonh
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    It was free to me. I checked the mortgage deals on offer and agreed with the mortgage they offered me. They got payment from the lender.

    And to repeat, the commission is recovered in the terms of the deal offered to you.  So, it's not free.  You are just not being explicitly charged.

    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • How long do people find it generally takes to hear anything following putting in the mortgage finder application? I did this over a week ago and haven't hear anything yet. 
  • dunstonh said:
    It was free to me. I checked the mortgage deals on offer and agreed with the mortgage they offered me. They got payment from the lender.

    And to repeat, the commission is recovered in the terms of the deal offered to you.  So, it's not free.  You are just not being explicitly charged.

    But this was a deal found on mortgage finders websites. I am not a complicated mortgage case.
    "Everything comes to him who hustles while he waits" Thomas Edison
    Following the Martin mantra "Earn more, have less debt, improve credit worthiness" :money:
  • I'm looking to use them to understand how much we'd be able to borrow, but we don't have any house in mind yet. If I fully fill up their form do you know if it will leave a permanent check on my credit report? Apologies if this is not the right place to ask.
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