A Millennial Speaks out

triathlon

westernpromise wrote: »

Also, in the same way that most "housing" charities don't create any new housing, the NHS didn't create any new hospitals. It just took over existing ones. Watford General Hospital was previously a workhouse, for example.
http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/news/13581713.the-history-of-watford-workhouse/

The story of socialism is stealing things by state diktat then claiming to have built them. Ultimately Labour's aim is to make the NHS as bad as possible so that people vote Labour in fear of its getting worse. The ideal Labour hospital is Mid-Staffs, where patients starved to death on trolleys, and where doctors had to prescribe water otherwise the unsackable staff would have let patients die of thirst.

There should be full criminal liability for public sector negligence. If you can be jailed for breaching financial regulations it should be possible for doctors and nurses to be held personally to account and jailed for manslaughter when they starve a patient to death.

The left thinks Mr. Bumble the Beadle is a model.

I find it hard to get all right wing about the NHS, they looked after my Mum with MS for 20 years, they saved my Dad at Papworth when he had serious heart problems.

But what really pi****s me off is burger munching, heavy smoking, people who have never cooked a fresh meal in their lives and whose only exercise is looking for the remote, who binge drink and get wasted on drugs who go crying to the NHS when they get eventually ill.

Nothing is more annoying than the weekend certainty of a hospital full of drunks with their self inflicted injuries, that's what I hate paying for.

Cakeguts

triathlon wrote: »

I find it hard to get all right wing about the NHS, they looked after my Mum with MS for 20 years, they saved my Dad at Papworth when he had serious heart problems.

But what really pi****s me off is burger munching, heavy smoking, people who have never cooked a fresh meal in their lives and whose only exercise is looking for the remote, who binge drink and get wasted on drugs who go crying to the NHS when they get eventually ill.

Nothing is more annoying than the weekend certainty of a hospital full of drunks with their self inflicted injuries, that's what I hate paying for.

Anyone who can afford to binge drink can also afford to pay for any hospital care that they need because of it. Perhaps if you turn up to hospital drunk you get charged for any treatment regardless.

cogito

Cakeguts wrote: »

Anyone who can afford to binge drink can also afford to pay for any hospital care that they need because of it. Perhaps if you turn up to hospital drunk you get charged for any treatment regardless.

They should be chucked into a drunk tank until they sober up instead of being ambulanced to A&E.

triathlon

Moby wrote: »

So the industrial revolution in the 18th and 19th century in Britain, then Europe and the US never happened?

Nah, it's all down to eletrickery

triathlon

cogito wrote: »

They should be chucked into a drunk tank until they sober up instead of being ambulanced to A&E.

This has been my pet hate for so many years and decades now. I have no issues with alcohol when it's used right, even when it mis used on the odd occasion. But you read about every village, town and city in the country every single week and it's ruined for 99% of us because of drunks.

I often research different areas on the country just to get a feeling of what it's like there, always you will here something like "it'd OK, except for the chav scum in the evenings", I have excepted now that this the whole of the UK.

Most of us have children and parents and grandparents, but it has not become excepted that their towns at night are not places for them because of the feral scum that take it over.I am all for taking our home towns back by any means one of these days and becoming a little more respectful and civilised

kimplus8

I may have jumped into this thread too late to be relevant but IMHO.
She needs to get a grip! now my financial situation isn't fantastic, I've gone bankrupt as part of a horrendous divorce but.....I made stupid mistakes and now Im living with the consequences like many others who have been financially reckless. I don't moan about it, I just get on with it because thats the position I put myself in. What does she have to show for all the spending she does, a holiday and expensive spending that she works all year for, what a waste of time and energy.
If she wants a home of her own that badly she will sacrifice her socialite in the pub and find free things to do. There are plenty of museums, art galleries and free events in and around London. instead of going to the pub for drinks maybe meet with a colleague for a hot-choc or coffee once a month, it doesn't have to be a weekly meet up in the pub.
she certainly doesn't 'need' a holiday or Taylor swift tickets even if they aren't the most expensive.
She wants to have her cake and eat it but unfortunately she needs to sacrifice now to be secure in her own home later in life.
moaning about her situation isn't getting her a house, she needs to get her big girl pants on and save.
.......or put up and shut up.

Cakeguts

triathlon wrote: »

This has been my pet hate for so many years and decades now. I have no issues with alcohol when it's used right, even when it mis used on the odd occasion. But you read about every village, town and city in the country every single week and it's ruined for 99% of us because of drunks.

I often research different areas on the country just to get a feeling of what it's like there, always you will here something like "it'd OK, except for the chav scum in the evenings", I have excepted now that this the whole of the UK.

Most of us have children and parents and grandparents, but it has not become excepted that their towns at night are not places for them because of the feral scum that take it over.I am all for taking our home towns back by any means one of these days and becoming a little more respectful and civilised

Do you think that the people who get drunk are the same ones who do all the fly tipping? They don't care about anyone but themselves.

GreatApe

Moby wrote: »

So the industrial revolution in the 18th and 19th century in Britain, then Europe and the US never happened?

It depends what you mean by it
If you mean some mines replaced horse powered pumps with steam powered pumps that did happen

If you mean what most people would understand by the term industrial and revolution then no it didn't happen. England was not an industrial country in the 1700-1800 there were no mass produced goods at cheap prices everyone could afford. The masses lived in abject poverty.

The real industrial revolution happened with electricity from around 1940 onward in the west (and from around 1990 onward in China). And parts of Africa still aren't in the electricity age and so I would argue they are not even in the industrial age. If we gave Africa steam engines they would still be dirt poor. If we gave them a grid that could supply 1,000 KWh of electricity per capita they would enter a period of rapid 10% annual growth.

GreatApe

Moby wrote: »

Great Ape you are such a reductionist who worships the technology God but fails to see that same technology can be used for good or bad and fails to see how technological advances interact with culture. Ever heard of Hitler; look what he did with technology. Those left wing dictators you hate so much for being socialists were able to spread their messages and organise through electricity. We now live with the daily threat of world destruction through technology. Of course we welcome technological advances, medicine etc but that changes nothing about human nature/morality. Millions of people live desperate and lonely lives despite technology. Ever heard of global warming, over population, famine, destruction of natural habitats, pollution. Yep its all been cushty since we had mass electricity:rotfl:

Electricity saved humans from the tree big plagues that you will thankfully never experience

Nature
Chance
Starvation

Arklight

Cakeguts wrote: »

The other thing that I have noticed and this may be due to everyone having a degree is that years ago people didn't take jobs in areas that they couldn't afford to live in. I suspect that having a degree makes people think that they are entitled to a well paid job regardless of whether it is in an area where they can afford to live?

London is one of the examples of this. There seems to be an endless stream of people on here complaining about the fact that they can't afford to rent or buy in London having moved from a different part of the country to a "better paid job." I expect it is better paid but it isn't enough better paid. I can remember discussions about this when I was young in that there was a problem getting people to transfer to work in local government jobs in the South East because the life style although not as well paid was better anywhere than London. The particular department was offering quite big promotions to people who would go and most people wouldn't. This would have been in the 60s and 70s. There are jobs in other parts of the country that give a better lifestyle than an underpaid job in London but because it looks more on paper the "graduates" who have really easy degrees don't realise that although they have a degree it isn't one of the ones that is ever going to let them earn enough to live in the most expensive part of the country. The thing is that if you have one of these degrees you are unlikely to be going to get a graduate level job anywhere so you need to look very carefully at costs of living in anywhere you are thinking of getting a job. Unfortunately the people who have these degrees are not very bright and they don't research anything well enough. All they see is the salary. It isn't until they try to live in London that they find that they don't earn enough.

Those that do earn enough shouldn't have a problem saving for a deposit as long as they put enough effort in. The journalist lady wasn't prepared to put the effort in and so proved that buying a house was not a high priority for her.

London is full of people who aren't there because they can't afford it.

Why do you hate young people?