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UK CPM Parking Charge Notice

edited 9 March 2018 at 9:48PM in Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking
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Hi folks,

Last week the driver of one of my vehicles let me know that the vehicle was issued a PCN by UK CPM while it was parked in my allocated parking place at my rented flat.

I must confess that having read the newbies advice I was inclined to just pay up and avoid the seemingly drawn out hassle and stress that would appear to follow. But I guess that!!!8217;s what these scum want you to do and having thought about it for a week and seen today!!!8217;s news I am now determined to challenge this.

I have one query if someone would be able to answer.

The PCN indicates that UK CPM are members of BOTH the BPA and IPC, however when I check the BPA list of Approved Operators UK Car Park Management is not listed as a current member.

Given that the newbies advice is different according to membership of each I wanted to know which advice I should follow if a company claims to be a member of both, especially as they don't show on the BPA list. I am assuming follow the advice for the BPA, but its always good to check with knowledgeable people.

Many Thanks
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  • RedxRedx Forumite
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    its been answered many times before, they are corporate members of both trade bodies but they choose to pay the IPC for their IAS ADR service so appear on their AOS list

    so the BPA list you are looking at is not a member list , its an AOS list so completely different

    so follow the IPC advice of appeal once using the template , then ignore unless an LBC or an MCOL arrives within 6 years

    dont bother us about debt collector letters, the DCA are powerless
  • edited 28 January 2018 at 10:12PM
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    edited 28 January 2018 at 10:12PM
    Just edited the NEWBIES thread to add this as a Q&A because we are always asked this about IPC AOS members who happen to also hold corporate BPA membership (as they are allowed):

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?p=72529599#post72529599

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5579829

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?p=73654314

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?p=73365852#post73365852
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  • HeavyEvyHeavyEvy Forumite
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    Thank you for the clarification RedX
  • SageOwl27SageOwl27 Forumite
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    Hi all,

    I consider myself to be a clever chap, and I'm still confused.

    Are UK CPM members of either of these bodies as they suggest they are?

    I can't see them on the AOS list of either BPA or IPC website's (as of 30/07/2018).

    Thanks in advance!
  • UmkomaasUmkomaas Forumite
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    SageOwl27 wrote: »
    Hi all,

    I consider myself to be a clever chap, and I'm still confused.

    Are UK CPM members of either of these bodies as they suggest they are?

    I can't see them on the AOS list of either BPA or IPC website's (as of 30/07/2018).

    Thanks in advance!

    They are IPC AOS members. The 'search by initial letter of PPC' on the IPC website seems not to be working of late, so you have to effectively scroll through the entire list. UKCPM are listed on page #6.

    https://theipc.info/aos-members/?page=6
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .
    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.
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  • SageOwl27SageOwl27 Forumite
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    So they are, thank you very much! I'll go back and look at what to do for IPC member appeals.
  • The_DeepThe_Deep Forumite
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    must confess that having read the newbies advice I was inclined to just pay up and avoid the seemingly drawn out hassle and stress that would appear to follow.

    But it is your space, you own the right to park there. Why give some knuckle dragging ex-clamper some of your hard eared rent. Especially now the we landlords are being taxed to the hilt by the gummint.

    This is an entirely unregulated industry which is scamming the public with inflated claims for minor breaches of contracts for alleged parking offences, aided and abetted by a handful of low-rent solicitors.

    Parking Eye, CPM, Smart, and another company have already been named and shamed, as has Gladstones Solicitors, and BW Legal, (these two law firms take hundreds of these cases to court each year). They lose most of them, and have been reported to the regulatory authority by an M.P. for unprofessional conduct

    Hospital car parks and residential complex tickets have been especially mentioned.

    The problem has become so rampant that MPs have agreed to enact a Bill to regulate these scammers. Watch the video of the Second Reading in the House of Commons recently

    http://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/2f0384f2-eba5-4fff-ab07-cf24b6a22918?in=12:49:41 recently.

    and complain in the most robust terms to your MP. With a fair wind they will be out of business by Christmas.
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  • sa1601sa1601 Forumite
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    UK CPM signs in my residential development state they are members of BPA. I have checked on their website and it clearly states they are members. Also checked the list of BPA member on the BPA site and they are listed under U for UK Car Park Management. The list is current for November 2018 and updated each month. What is interesting is that they are replacing old signs and the new ones do not state membership of the BPA. Perhaps they are leaving the BPA.
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  • beamerguybeamerguy Forumite
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    sa1601 wrote: »
    UK CPM signs in my residential development state they are members of BPA. I have checked on their website and it clearly states they are members. Also checked the list of BPA member on the BPA site and they are listed under U for UK Car Park Management. The list is current for November 2018 and updated each month. What is interesting is that they are replacing old signs and the new ones do not state membership of the BPA. Perhaps they are leaving the BPA.

    Parking companies can belong to both the BPA and the IPC if they want to waste their money.

    They can only use one ATA to get DVLA info.
    UKCPM decided to use the scam IPC/IAS
  • UmkomaasUmkomaas Forumite
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    sa1601 wrote: »
    Also checked the list of BPA member on the BPA site and they are listed under U for UK Car Park Management. The list is current for November 2018 and updated each month.
    You won't find them on the official BPA AOS list:

    https://www.britishparking.co.uk/BPA-Approved-Operators
    Perhaps they are leaving the BPA.
    They left the BPA AOS on 01/10/2015 to join the IPC AOS:

    https://theipc.info/aos-members/u
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .
    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.
    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
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