Definition of "non dependant".

cazziej

Hi there

Hoping somebody can help me with this query, I have asked Mr Google and tried a few other searches but can't find the answer.

My husband, myself and our 22 year old son all live with my oldest son in his mortgaged house.

When I am putting our details into "entitled to" I come to a standstill as I am asked about our tenancy status and we do not fit into any of the options. The nearest I can see, is the non-dependant option, but as far as I can see, this would apply if our son was living with us in OUR house, but it is HIS house.

He pays full Council Tax and I am trying to see if he could get a reduction? Myself and my husband have both been retired on medical grounds and receive small pensions. Husband gets standard care PIP and ESA and I get standard care mobility PIP. I work one day per week, earning £490 per month.

Is there likely to be any reduction for him? 22 year old son is between jobs at the moment but not claiming any benefits.

Thank you for any advice.

C

cazziej

Thank you, I will try that. The other problem is, other than seeing if we could get a CT reduction, I wanted to check that our (my husband and myself) benefits are correct, but still have the problem that I can't get past the housing question.

Thank you

C

marliepanda

cazziej wrote: »

Thank you, I will try that. The other problem is, other than seeing if we could get a CT reduction, I wanted to check that our (my husband and myself) benefits are correct, but still have the problem that I can't get past the housing question.

Thank you

C

If your son is of working age with no disability and your 22yr old son who I assume has no disability lives there will be no council tax reduction

elmer

This used to be a case for a Second adult Rebate, but Im not sure if its still an available benefit in England, it dies still exist in scotland and is on a sliding scale to replace the Single person discount that your son has lost by you living with him if you are on a low income

You can't claim for a Council Tax reduction as you are not liable for the Council Tax

elmer

Having just reread your post, as he is not working, he can claim Council Tax reduction and you would be a non dependant on his claim and your income taken into account?

Maybe speak to the CAB for a benefits check as Council Tax is different in each area in England and Im assuming thats where you live. If you live in Scotland there haven't been so many changes

Nick_C

marliepanda wrote: »

If your son is of working age with no disability and your 22yr old son who I assume has no disability lives there will be no council tax reduction

Doesn't that depend on the son's income and the level of CT?

marliepanda

Nick_C wrote: »

Doesn't that depend on the son's income and the level of CT?

They are living with the son in the sons house, so he has council tax liability not them. He could potentially claim council tax reduction in his own right, but that would have been the case with or without the family moving in.

There are four of them altogether so even if two are exempt due to disability, it would still leave two adults.

marliepanda

elmer wrote: »

Having just reread your post, as he is not working, he can claim Council Tax reduction and you would be a non dependant on his claim and your income taken into account?

Maybe speak to the CAB for a benefits check as Council Tax is different in each area in England and Im assuming thats where you live. If you live in Scotland there haven't been so many changes

There are two sons, the 22 year old and the ‘eldest’ whose age is not given.

The house belongs to the eldest. The 22 year old has moved in with his Mum and Dad with his older brother.

CIS

Nick_C wrote: »

Doesn't that depend on the son's income and the level of CT?

I think she was referring to it from the point of view of a council tax reduction via a discount rather than via council tax reduction (ctr). Why on earth they didn't use a different name when created the system I don't know, causes no end of confusion.

Nick_C

marliepanda wrote: »

They are living with the son in the sons house, so he has council tax liability not them. He could potentially claim council tax reduction in his own right, but that would have been the case with or without the family moving in.

There are four of them altogether so even if two are exempt due to disability, it would still leave two adults.

I understand that completely. But without knowing the other factors you cannot say with certainty that there will be no Council Tax Reduction.

marliepanda

Nick_C wrote: »

I understand that completely. But without knowing the other factors you cannot say with certainty that there will be no Council Tax Reduction.

Agreed. Poor wording due to the similar names, plus an assumption due to the fact if he could have it, he’d have it already as the new situation wouldn’t afford him any more eligibility, especially with a working age adult and a Mum that works.