Are No Entry signs enforceable in Private Car Parks?

karli281

Hi All,

Hope someone can help with this query - Are no entry signs in a private car park enforceable? Will the driver get issued a fine for not using the correct lane to exit?

The entrance and exit points are next to each other but the exit lane is a lot narrower due to the posts placed there.

As the car park uses ANPR, will it see the car leaving and will it see the car using the incorrect lane? There are other cars that have used the entrance lane to leave.

Thanks

pogofish

The Newbies Sticky will fully inform you fully. Signs are no different to any other aspect of private parking.

And they are never 'fines'!

karli281

Hi Pogofish, thanks for your reply.

I have checked the newbies bit (call me stupid...) but I can't find anything on no entry signs etc. I have checked the forum and it is mainly parking charges for overstaying the time or not purchasing a ticket.

From what you say, does this mean that the no entry signs or any road signs are erected by the private car parks themselves and therefore not legal?

As the car park uses ANPR, will it see the car leaving and using the incorrect lane?

Are there any known cases of drivers receiving a notice requesting for payment due to not using the correct lane to exit?

Thanks again!

Fruitcake

No entry signs on private land would probably be for guidance only. They cannot be enforced the same way that signs on a public road can be.

Private parking companies issue thousands of PCNs every day for all sorts of made up reasons. The reason why someone gets a ticket is often irrelevant. It's just the scammers made up rules to extract the maximum money they can.

The end result though is the same. If you get a PCN for whatever reason, appeal as per the template in the NEWBIES thread.
Don't overthink or try to pre-empt the scammers reason for getting one.
Either you get one, in which case you appeal, or you don't get one.

pogofish

karli281 wrote: »

Hi Pogofish, thanks for your reply.

I have checked the newbies bit (call me stupid...) but I can't find anything on no entry signs etc. I have checked the forum and it is mainly parking charges for overstaying the time or not purchasing a ticket.

From what you say, does this mean that the no entry signs or any road signs are erected by the private car parks themselves and therefore not legal?

As the car park uses ANPR, will it see the car leaving and using the incorrect lane?

Are there any known cases of drivers receiving a notice requesting for payment due to not using the correct lane to exit?

Thanks again!

Post one, point two covers this completely.

Yes.

Plenty of cases where tickets are issued for some other spurious 'infringement' other than parking, they all proceed the same way. Overthinking your response usually puts you at a serious disadvantage.

System

No entry

It's forbidding. No contract is being offered so it's nonsense really.

However there is a Health and Safety issue here that you might want to consider.

Half_way

signs in private car parks are guidance only.
Private company's can not charge you for ignoring no entry/one way etc.
If they do they are in breech with their KADoE contradict with the dvla

beamerguy

As the ANPR camera is placed to read number
plates on entry or exit, they are not wide angle
and hence I doubt their field of view would
extend to the next lane.

HOWEVER ..... your number would have been
captured on entry but if it is not captured on exit,
your car is still in the car park.
If you go there again and use the correct exit
it is possible the dodgy ANPR will say you
have been there for hours, maybe days.

Using the entry lane to exit will also
probably mean that your car, (albiet the back of the car)
will be showing as entry

Think before you use the car park again

Castle

IamEmanresu wrote: »

It's forbidding. No contract is being offered so it's nonsense really.

However there is a Health and Safety issue here that you might want to consider.

There's also the Road Traffic Act when it comes to "Public places".

Grimble

NPE tried this in Norwich and had his backside kicked, this is not parking, it is a moving traffic offence which only applies to highways not private land.

Computersaysno

I like going in the out and out the in....god knows what it does to their ANPR calculations!!!


I know someone who one day covered their rear plate and went in all entrances that had a 'front capture' cameras on a big site near us [multiple small carparks on the same complex] and then left the site.


Next day did the reverse....was trying to get several overlapping tickets from the same PPC for essentially the same site. That would have been good data to show how sh17 their "ANPR checking processes" [lol] are!!!