Salaried phased return to work

Comms69

Manxman_in_exile wrote: »

Am I missing something here?


As a salaried employee I'd expect to be paid my full salary on a phased return to work. Is the OP not "salaried"?


Also sounds like a simple payroll error/timing issues/miscommunication etc.

Really? Because as a business I would say "no thanks, come back when you can actually do the job im paying you to do."


a phased return is for the benefit of the employee, not employer.

Manxman_in_exile

Comms69 wrote: »

Really? Because as a business I would say "no thanks, come back when you can actually do the job im paying you to do."


a phased return is for the benefit of the employee, not employer.

Sorry - the point I was trying to make (in a rather roundabout and obtuse way) is that the OP isn't salaried.


I think a phased return to work ought to benefit both parties - especially if it results from an accident at work.

Comms69

Manxman_in_exile wrote: »

Sorry - the point I was trying to make (in a rather roundabout and obtuse way) is that the OP isn't salaried.


I think a phased return to work ought to benefit both parties - especially if it results from an accident at work.

True, but the OP may well be getting compensation from that via a separate claim.


That said, I've been salaried and during a phased return, I went hourly temporarily.

Manxman_in_exile

Comms69 wrote: »

True, but the OP may well be getting compensation from that via a separate claim.


That said, I've been salaried and during a phased return, I went hourly temporarily.

Agreed. But that's why as an employer I wouldn't want to be messing around with the OP's salary unnecessarily.


Assuming the OP is actually on some kind of hourly or daily rate then I assume it depends on what the sickness policy says about phased returns (assuming it says anything at all).

TELLIT01

Comms69 wrote: »

a phased return is for the benefit of the employee, not employer.

Wrong. The intention is to be able to get the employee being productive again rather than paying them for sitting at home. My brother-in-law is currently on phased return to work following hip replacement. They know he can't yet work full time, he's on his feet all day at work, but phased return actually helps to strengthen the muscles around the hip and will aid his recovery. That is as much in the employer's interest as in his.
If phased return only benefitted the employee no employer would actually do it

My brother-in-law is actually hourly paid, but is being given full pay during the phased return. That's the same as he would be getting if he remained off work.

Robin9

agrinnall wrote: »

You surely didn't expect to be receiving a full time wage when working part time hours did you?

Yes I would have expected to have returned on full pay - the OP was injured at work and it would have been a good gesture by the employer.

Comms69

TELLIT01 wrote: »

Wrong. - wow strong words. The intention is to be able to get the employee being productive again rather than paying them for sitting at home. - possibly, though many places typically just pay SSP My brother-in-law is currently on phased return to work following hip replacement. They know he can't yet work full time, he's on his feet all day at work, but phased return actually helps to strengthen the muscles around the hip and will aid his recovery. - oh so it is for his benefit? That is as much in the employer's interest as in his.
If phased return only benefitted the employee no employer would actually do it - the employer does it for a number of reasons, but there is no obligation to do it. It typically is more hassle than it's worth. I would refuse to do it.

My brother-in-law is actually hourly paid, but is being given full pay during the phased return. That's the same as he would be getting if he remained off work.

Then your BIL has an enhanced sick pay policy.

popeseye

Well seeing as though i work approx 10 15 hours over my contracted hours and dont get paid for them, well yes i would expect to get paid for doing less hours, that aside i was not told i would be getting less money so i wanted to know where i stood in regards to the law ie deduction in wages without notification or written concent.

Like i say we are paid by wpa insurance and are entitled to 13 weeks @ 100% then a further 13 weeks @60%
because i have returned to work wpa are no longer paying my sick pay, but my employer is continuing to pay me sick pay @ 60% of my salary as noted on my wage slip.

i have had major tendon surgery which may never fully heal effecting my grip and loss of strength in my hand i have been off for 4 months, and done very little in tyhis time the phased return was for my benefit to ease me back into my role build up strength and confidence , tbh i think i should have had some kind of formal interview with management explaining what i can and cant do hours ect and pay situation which never happened.

sangie595

If you choose to work over your paid hours, that is your choice. Nothing to do with anything else.

What the OP thinks should happen is equally irrelevant.

There are two types of phased return policies. One type says that the individual is fit for work, and chooses to return part time. So the individual is paid for the hots they work, in effect - so pro rata for salaried staff. This is quite common. The other says that you get paid salary for the hours worked, and sick pay (whatever that is) for the hours not worked. That is equally as common.

If the accident at work was the employers fault (having an accident at work is not meaningful in itself) then that is a different and entirely separate issue.

So opinions are irrelevant on this matter. The employers policy is all that matters. So the OP needs to find out what that policy is. Consult their union if in one.

popeseye

I think my work is actually making it up as they go along we dont have a union,

like i say our sick pay is paid by an insurance policy if i was off sick sill i would be on 60% of my salaried wage paid two weekly, because my surgeon ticked the box phased return light duites for a month would benefit me the insurance company are no longer liable for payments because i am in effect back at work so payroll has taken upon its self to continue paying me at the reduced rate the same i might add i would get at home. now my issue is there is nothing in the hand book regarding phased return to work, nothing was said when i returned at upper manager level about hours or pay or duties ect ect i was just told to sort it out what suited me with my line manager, i just feel as though they could have let me know what was happening.before deducting my wages.