Permitted development

beezkneez

Does anyone know anything about permitted development?

I have spent all day googling and am now confused!

My aim is to replace our old prefab garage with a bigger one but further down the garden

This would make more space at the back and side of the house

I would then like to do an extension at the back to make a lounge area across the back. This would be made of timber frame so that we can see how easy and sturdy they are with the aim in 10 years to rebuild the whole bungalow possibly in timber frame


So looking on the portal it says

No more than half the area of land around the "original house"* would be covered by additions or other buildings

What does it mean by area of land? Does this mean the garden? We have a large garden. Also what is classed as additions and other buildings? We have an ancient conservatory that would be knocked down and we have old wooden sheds are they included?

Has anyone done an extension via this process and what did it involve?

EachPenny

The rules are a lot more complicated than the ones you mention above. And there are separate sets of rules for extensions and outbuildings.

Before you invest too much time in working them out, the first thing is to find out whether permitted development applies to your property as there are cases where it doesn't - for example with listed buildings, in conservation areas and where something called an Article 4 Direction has been issued specifically for your property or a group of properties.

The most reliable way of finding out is to contact your local planning department and ask, but not all planning departments are as helpful as they used to be. You may need to make an appointment and visit in person.

System

beezkneez wrote: »

I would then like to do an extension at the back to make a lounge area across the back. This would be made of timber frame so that we can see how easy and sturdy they are with the aim in 10 years to rebuild the whole bungalow possibly in timber frame

cheaper surely just to visit a 10 year old timber framed house?

beezkneez

the_r_sole wrote: »

cheaper surely just to visit a 10 year old timber framed house?

But gives me time to save up and benefit from the additional space

beezkneez

EachPenny wrote: »

The rules are a lot more complicated than the ones you mention above. And there are separate sets of rules for extensions and outbuildings.

Before you invest too much time in working them out, the first thing is to find out whether permitted development applies to your property as there are cases where it doesn't - for example with listed buildings, in conservation areas and where something called an Article 4 Direction has been issued specifically for your property or a group of properties.

The most reliable way of finding out is to contact your local planning department and ask, but not all planning departments are as helpful as they used to be. You may need to make an appointment and visit in person.

Thanks

From what I’ve read I’m ok on all the other areas but just need to
check the article 4 aspect

We would be doing it ourselves so just working out cost implications

Tom99

If you are still unsure apply for a Lawful Development Certificate

https://www.planningportal.co.uk/info/200130/common_projects/120/what_to_do_next/3

parking_question_chap

EachPenny wrote: »

The most reliable way of finding out is to contact your local planning department and ask, but not all planning departments are as helpful as they used to be. You may need to make an appointment and visit in person.

Corrected for you.

The most reliable way of finding out is to contact your local planning department and ask, but not all planning departments are as well funded as they used to be. You may need to make an appointment and visit in person.

beezkneez

I don’t think I can now because I didn’t realise that when we replaced our broken from door with a new one from b&q we should have has building regs!! Too worried to contact them.... we replaced a window too.... ��

chrisw

beezkneez wrote: »

I don’t think I can now because I didn’t realise that when we replaced our broken from door with a new one from b&q we should have has building regs!! Too worried to contact them.... we replaced a window too.... ��

You are worrying unnecessarily, no one will know or care.

The planning section is different from the building control section - only if there is obvious work done that should have had planning permission then the planning might let building control know. Even if they do find out, it’s no big deal, you will have to apply for a certificate.

casper_g

Did you replace the whole door and frame, or put a new door into the existing frame? If the latter, you didn't need building regulations approval AIUI.

EachPenny

parking_question_chap wrote: »

Corrected for you.

The most reliable way of finding out is to contact your local planning department and ask, but not all planning departments are as well funded as they used to be. You may need to make an appointment and visit in person.

Thanks for the suggestion, but I prefer the wording the way I originally put it.

The issue is not just about funding, many planning officers also feel less free to offer informal advice because residents are likely to complain bitterly if things turn out differently to what the informal advice suggested.

There has also been a generational shift in planning departments since 2008 with many of the 'old hands' taking (early) retirement being replaced with younger less experienced staff who are more risk adverse.

The net effect is some planning departments are less helpful than they used to be - there is now a greater chance of the advice being "Put in an application".