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Medical consent issue

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  • I refused OH once. They said 'no OH, no job'. So literally had to me weighed, height measured as well as being questioned about my health whilst wearing nothing but my knickers. By someone who I didn't know was a proper nurse ir what. Sometimes you've just got to get on with it
  • Trouble is, I didn't know when I agreed to be weighed etc wearing just my underwear, that the person recording the measurements would be the same person I would be seeing for the next couple of years managing me. So it was a bit embarrassing!
  • I think, unless there is anything you need to hide, then just agree
  • soolin
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    edited 20 January 2018 at 8:48AM
    I refused OH once. They said 'no OH, no job'. So literally had to me weighed, height measured as well as being questioned about my health whilst wearing nothing but my knickers. By someone who I didn't know was a proper nurse ir what. Sometimes you've just got to get on with it

    Are you sure about that as that isn't what OH does. You didn't work for a dodgy organisation did you?

    OP OH are there to support the worker as well as the employer and have limited powers and they do have to stay within certain legal parameters:

    http://maitlandmedicaloccupationalhealth.com/employees.html

    As above though in the organisations I have worked with a refusal to co operate with OH would be looked on as having something to hide, and as an employer could not be sure they were protecting you properly and if necessary making adjustments to support you on your return they would probably not want the employee back. An employer is probably going to have to be extremely cautious about allowing someone back to work without knowing they could do so safely .
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  • I hope she manages to work all this out, but lying is never a great idea - regardless of the intention.
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  • I refused OH once. They said 'no OH, no job'. So literally had to me weighed, height measured as well as being questioned about my health whilst wearing nothing but my knickers. By someone who I didn't know was a proper nurse ir what. Sometimes you've just got to get on with it

    Like your daughter that you claim was made to do PE just in her pants?

    Your obsession is quite disturbing.
  • LilElvis
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    Your wife needs to carefully read all of her employer's policies regarding sickness and sickness pay as failure to comply with their (reasonable) requests may lead to them withdrawing any company sick pay.

    It was only in the conversation with my gf that OH said it seems like she'll need longer. They may not have come to that conclusion if she hadn't said a few things.

    So her lies to OH aren't that minor if they were sufficient to lead OH (and therefore her employer) to believe she will need a further period off work in addition to the initial 6 weeks for which she is signed off.

    You have said that your wife is signed off due to injury - was it an injury at work? If it was then lying to OH will look even worse.
  • lulu650
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    There's been a few misunderstandings........
    Hi SG, I think your original posts, before you corrected them, seemed to suggest that you thought an employer couldn't dismiss if an employee refused an OH appt. Several posters made it clear that wasn't the case. Now you state that you don't think an employer will dismiss if contact with the consultant is refused. May be not, but the employer will have to believe your g/f is being truthful.

    The next stage is that OH will write up a report, your girlfriend will read it before the employer receives it and ask for corrections to be made as needed. Your g/f will be called in to a sickness review meeting where the OH meeting will be discussed including adjustments that may need to be made, possible phased return and likely date for return.

    Ultimately, at some point your g/f will have to repeat lies (white or otherwise) at a return to work meeting.
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  • ohreally
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    What good did your wife think would come of this?
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  • FBaby
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    If OH has asked to write to the consultant, it means that they are already having suspicions about what she's told them. Otherwise, they wouldn't bother. So either way, she's doomed. She says no you can't and they will draw the conclusion they are already suspecting, she agrees and they'll have the evidence they are looking for.

    Lying was very stupid. Sounds like she said she needed surgery when it's not the case which indeed, would be a hard to justify having misunderstood.
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