We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

IMPORTANT: Please make sure your posts do not contain any personally identifiable information (both your own and that of others). When uploading images, please take care that you have redacted all personal information including number plates, reference numbers and QR codes (which may reveal vehicle information when scanned).
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Court claim issued for parking”fine” from 2012

Andy69
Andy69 Posts: 6 Forumite
edited 1 February 2018 at 12:51PM in Parking tickets, fines & parking
Hi, a “parking charge notice” was issued on 4th August 2012 in a private car park, The Percy Car Park Hanro Group, a valid blue badge was displayed, however a charge was issued to my car the advice at the time was just ignore it and no matter what letter comes through the door just ignore it, however recently it was a company called bw legal sending letters and have now filed a claim in Northampton County Court, im at a loss as to what to do next, ive filed an AOS and applied for the extra time to contest this claim, any help from here on in will be greatly appreciated
Andy69
«134

Comments

  • Andy69
    Andy69 Posts: 6 Forumite
    Oh and the car in question was scrapped in about 2015
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,867 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    You will need to read the NEWBIES FAQ sticky, post #2 which deals with county court claims from the receipt of the LBC and court claim, right through to the hearing. There are specific actions and deadlines you have to meet, so this isn’t a ‘skim read’ job - it’s your ’go to’ resource as this progresses.

    There are a very small number of posters who will comment on your draft defence, once you’ve written it. Post it up.

    So it’s the newbies sticky and good research on the forum for previous (recent cases). Who is the parking company (it’s not BWL)?
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    edited 19 January 2018 at 6:37PM
    You have misunderstood. The Northampton cc isn't where the hearing will take place.

    It will be at your choice of court.

    But that comes much later.

    Everyone is politely asked to read up on this in the Newbies FAQ thread near the top of the forum.

    Go there now.

    ,#2 covers court claims.

    Come back with your draft defence for comments

    (Abusing the blue badge scheme won't get you too much sympathy!)

    Throughout here you are advised not to reveal who was driving. You need to edit your post to remove details of who was driving
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,867 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Oh and the car in question was scrapped in about 2015
    Totally irrelevant.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
    Eighth Anniversary 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    edited 19 January 2018 at 8:51PM
    firstly , blue badges are not "valid" in private car parks so it was pointless unless the BB holder was present and also you still have to conform to the parking rules on site as well (ay my local hospital BB holders pay AND display a BB too - so double the rules on parking)

    a non-BB holder like you cannot use the BB anyway and unless you tell us different you are not covered by the EA2010 either (I have a BB and I am covered by the EA2010)

    so only your wife can be using the BB , not you, so it seems you broke the rules by using that badge for your own benefit (which it is not provided for)

    so I am afraid that so far none of your "story" will wash in court

    the fact the car was scrapped later on makes no difference because the vehicle was present on the day they took pictures of it

    the court is not in Northampton , it will be one local to you , the BUSINESS CENTRE is in Northampton and is just a Government office manned by civil servants, it is not an actual court

    you need to write a defence and submit it within say 28 days , based on legal arguments including the fact that this predates POFA2012 so a keeper is not liable

    which PPC was it ? EXCEL ? or VCS ?

    see post #2 of the NEWBIES FAQ sticky thread at the top of this forum for help , advice and examples of what you need to do and to write etc and post that defence on here for critique first
  • System
    System Posts: 178,377 Community Admin
    10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    Have you contacted the Hospital.

    These claims work on the basis that there is a reason to issue them. Can't see the hospital being able to justify it, so contact them and ask them to intervene.

    Come back with the result and if they say no, we'll help with the next stage.

    BW Legal are bottom feeders and are looking to get people to pay even if the money is not owed. So see what the Trust want to do about it.

    It is very unlikely you'll need to pay.
    This is a system account and does not represent a real person. To contact the Forum Team email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com
  • Castle
    Castle Posts: 4,956 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Back in 2012 BPA members shouldn't issue a ticket to a vehicle showing a valid Blue Badge, (Section 16.5):-
    http://www.britishparking.co.uk/write/Documents/AOS/BPA__Code_of_Practice_-_October_2012_-_Version_6.pdf

    (This may be for failing to pay rather than parking in a BB bay)
  • You should put a STRONG DVLA complaint in about the parking firm calling their fake invoice a “fine”. I’m sure trading standards will be interested as well.

    Only a statutory authority can issue fines.

    This could be your silver bullet...
    If you were not the driver write to the parking firm and tell them who was so they CANNOT hold you liable. The person who was driving the car is responsible so let them deal with it. Not you! Don’t let people with an agenda tell you otherwise.
  • fisherjim
    fisherjim Posts: 7,111 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    You should put a STRONG DVLA complaint in about the parking firm calling their fake invoice a “fine”. I’m sure trading standards will be interested as well.

    Only a statutory authority can issue fines.

    This could be your silver bullet...

    Can you point out where the OP states the PPC called their charge a fine?
  • fisherjim wrote: »
    Can you point out where the OP states the PPC called their charge a fine?
    Yes, in the title of the thread. And then the very first line of the body of the text.
    If you were not the driver write to the parking firm and tell them who was so they CANNOT hold you liable. The person who was driving the car is responsible so let them deal with it. Not you! Don’t let people with an agenda tell you otherwise.
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 352.3K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.6K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454.3K Spending & Discounts
  • 245.3K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 601.1K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.5K Life & Family
  • 259.2K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.