Esa and pip

Howard48

Im receiving esa and pip, I'm thinking of moving in with missus who is on uc, I'm on esa due to being ill and am unable to work. I got told I was signed off for at least three years and wouhdnt hear anything from them until a few years.. I was told today I would need to be added to my partners uc even tho she isn t ill or anything.. will i need to have a medical and how does this work? I have also been told I need to tell my partner what pip I'm receive witch I didn't want to tell her as that's my money and want to try and save some if it if I can incase things don't work out.. do i need to tell uc that I'm getting pip can I talk to them on phone or will partner need to tell them? Apparently she can't be added to my esa because she has claimed uc and she will never be able to come off uc.

poppy12345

Howard48 wrote: »

Im receiving esa and pip, I'm thinking of moving in with missus who is on uc, I'm on esa due to being ill and am unable to work. I got told I was signed off for at least three years and wouhdnt hear anything from them until a few years.. I was told today I would need to be added to my partners uc even tho she isn t ill or anything.. will i need to have a medical and how does this work? I have also been told I need to tell my partner what pip I'm receive witch I didn't want to tell her as that's my money and want to try and save some if it if I can incase things don't work out.. do i need to tell uc that I'm getting pip can I talk to them on phone or will partner need to tell them? Apparently she can't be added to my esa because she has claimed uc and she will never be able to come off uc.

I can't help you with the ESA and UC question, i'm sure someone will come along and answer that one.

Why would you want to keep something like a benefit claim from your partner? :eek: Isn't a relationship meant to be based on trust? I know if i had a partner who kept something like this from me, i wouldn't be happy.

Howard48

Because that's money for my illness to help me, and not for her to waste money and then expect me to spend that on the things that our uc would be for.. I want to keep some of the money back incase it don't work out and I would like to sort out life insurance and pay my funeral upfront..

Mojisola

Howard48 wrote: »

Im receiving esa and pip, I'm thinking of moving in with missus who is on uc, I'm on esa due to being ill and am unable to work.

I was told today I would need to be added to my partners uc even tho she isn t ill or anything.

I have also been told I need to tell my partner what pip I'm receive witch I didn't want to tell her as that's my money and want to try and save some if it if I can in case things don't work out.

If you move in together, you will assessed as a couple - the money you get will be joint money.

It sounds as if you need to stay as you are and save 'escape' money before moving in together.

Howard48

I know it will be joint . But I'm asking why do I have to be added to her uc claim when I'm the ill one in esa?? That will then mean I'm not ill on paper .

Ames

Is your ESA income based or contribution based?

If income based then yes, you need to go on her UC claim. If you split up you won't be able to go back on ESA you'll have to stay on UC. If you're entitled to the SDP now then you won't be on UC as it doesn't exist.

I don't know whether you'd have to have a medical and go through the work capability process again, I think you would but I'm not entirely sure.

If you think she's going to spend all the joint money and not leave you with anything then you shouldn't be moving in together, it doesn't sound like a healthy, equal, respectful partnership.

TELLIT01

If you are living as a couple, and claiming Income Related benefits, then only one of you can claim and they claim for both people. As you appear to be in a UC area you will be added to your partner's claim and she will have to inform UC of all benefits you are receiving. If you don't tell her about your PIP payment it will result in a false claim being made. That could result in both she, and you, being accused of fraud.

poppy12345

Even if you do claim SDP now, moving accross to UC or moving in with your partner wouldn't make any difference. You'll lose the SDP anyway because you'll no longer be classed as living alone, unless your partner recieves a qualifying benefit too.

If you don't want to tell your partner you claim a disability benefit, then you should ask yourself do you really want to move in together. Sorry, but you can't have it both ways, if you live together you claim as a couple.

paragon909

Howard48 wrote: »

Because that's money for my illness to help me, and not for her to waste money and then expect me to spend that on the things that our uc would be for.. I want to keep some of the money back incase it don't work out and I would like to sort out life insurance and pay my funeral upfront..

Nice, You've not even moved in and your talking like this, I'm no Jeremy Kyle... But this seems like an unhealthy relationship to even start with!

TELLIT01

With the level of concern voiced by the OP about the trustworthyness of the partner maybe it would be better to defer taking the relationship to the next stage for a while.
Over the years I've known many couples who keep their finances totally separate but have a joint account to which they both contribute. In that situation they are both working and free to decide for themselves how much of their income they want to share. If claiming benefits that luxury is not available, ALL income and assets are considered to be joint to DWP.

epitome

Howard48,

What group on ESA WRAG or Support?

When you move in together, your PIP will still be yours and will still be paid to you directly. You don't have to tell her how much your PIP is... all she has to do when adding you to her UC ...she tells them that her partner's name and NI No. is xxxxxxx and he gets PIP, if they ask her what types she just says I don't know....the UC people will easily find out the information by looking at your records. And I doubt her UC letters will tell her what rates your PIP is....she could easily find out after the UC claim has been changed she could phone and ask them to tell her what rates of PIP are on her UC claim for you....but I doubt she would do that. Your PIP will make no difference to her UC rate, except it will possibly entitle a greater housing element for having a disability.

What you want to find out is if you would both be paid more on UC if the UC was in your name...if you are in support group?