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APCOA PCN for 5 minutes over

Hi,

I've just received a PCN from APCOA for parking at my local hospital. I paid via the app and it started at 11:12. The PCN shows that my car left the large car park (not left the space) at 12:17. They are demanding £30 (£18 if paid within 14 days). Although it's not the biggest amount in the world, I find it a bit cheeky that I'm being "fined" for probably leaving the parking space a minute or 2 after the ticket expired. Any advice please?

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  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    Everyone is politely asked not to start a thread until after reading up on this in the Newbies faq thread near the top of the forum


    Go there now and learn about the game you are caught up in and how to deal with this


    (Complain to the PALS office at the hospital first off to see if they agree to get it cancelled)
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 42,835 Forumite
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    edited 12 January 2018 at 11:58AM
    Any advice please?

    Firstly - are you sure the app transaction went through without problem? Has the money paid appeared on your bank/cc statement? If all that is ok, then:

    1. Send the initial appeal (blue text) from the NEWBIES FAQ sticky, post #1. Don’t change or add anything.

    2. Complain to PALS (Google it) at the hospital and ask them to get it cancelled.

    3. Learn that there is a period of grace of at least 10 minutes that a BPA operator must provide by studying Clause 13 in the BPA Code of Practice - link below.

    4. Complain to the BPA that APCOA have flagrantly ignored the requirements placed on them by the CoP - email below.

    5. Complain to the DVLA that APCOA have wantonly accessed your data with disregard to the Data Protection Act and their KADOE contract with the DVLA, as they had no ‘reasonable cause’ (use those words) to do so, as the vehicle had left the car park within the grace period mandated by the BPA Code of Practice (attach a copy of the APCOA NtK to show that the vehicle left within 5 minutes) - email below.

    http://www.britishparking.co.uk/write/Documents/AOS/AOS_Code_of_Practice_January_2018.pdf

    aos@britishparking.co.uk - FTAO Mr S Clark

    david.dunford@dvla.gsi.gov.uk
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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  • Sorry chaps. I contacted them and they cancelled it, apologising profusely and said the camera system must have been at fault. I'll keep the 5 points in mind though in case I end up with something similar-my wife is expecting our first so I'm dreading the issues we may come across in the not too distant future when we go to the same hospital for the birth.

    Also, apologies Quentin. I was reading other threads and the advice given was to start your own thread instead of hijacking others-will read sticky for any future queries
  • fisherjim
    fisherjim Posts: 6,924 Forumite
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    Obvious this time the anpr wasn't at fault, you caught them out trying on their scam!

    Though a ppc admitting their anpr might be liable to inaccuracies or failure is very rare indeed.
  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    Please still appraise the hospital Pals about this.

    And tell the local press.

    Many others may be getting caught like this and simply pay the £18 thinking it's cheaper than wasting time fighting it are simply under the impression it's a proper "fine"
  • Herzlos
    Herzlos Posts: 15,553 Forumite
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    I'd still complain to the BPA, DVLA and hospital, otherwise the scam will never be killed off.

    You can bet that they sent out lots of 'invoices' that day/week/month, and wouldn't refund anyone who just paid up.
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