Anyone know the process of what happens with the car after part exchange?

wgl2014

AdrianC wrote: »

He'd be breaching the Computer Misuse Act, for a start.

And for a finish? Whilst accessing some irrelevant random data could possibly (with an extremely lax interpretation) fit the definition are you really suggesting these circumstances fit the offence?

Jlawson118

AdrianC wrote: »

He'd be breaching the Computer Misuse Act, for a start.

The Computer Misuse Act is to do with hacking unauthorised devices in a way to damage systems or steal information from it. I'm hardly causing any damage to the device nor the car.

Although the reason for this post is that it is concerning to me that this device is still in, simply because I could be somebody dodgy for all anybody knows. I handed my key in and the spare, but who's to say I didn't have a third? I very nearly did have a third when the mechanism broke on the original key last March, but I lost my job so I didn't bother getting a new key. If I had, I could have simply tracked the car and 'stole it' and keep regularly selling it on. These tracking devices are quite popular though, not just specifically the AA one either. And I know insurance companies offer them.

Surely checking for any kind of tracking device and removing it should be top priority. I've found my car on a website now, somewhere called Car Shop. Who promise a '114 point check' which obviously the diagnostic port for tracking devices isn't one of the checks.

AdrianC

Jlawson118 wrote: »

The Computer Misuse Act is to do with hacking unauthorised devices in a way to damage systems or steal information from it. I'm hardly causing any damage to the device nor the car.

But you ARE using a computer system to access data to which you are not entitled.

droopsnoot

Jlawson118 wrote: »

Surely checking for any kind of tracking device and removing it should be top priority. I've found my car on a website now, somewhere called Car Shop. Who promise a '114 point check' which obviously the diagnostic port for tracking devices isn't one of the checks.

I imagine their 114 point check will be done when someone buys the car, not when the dealer first receives it. Some things that they check may need doing again if it sits for a few weeks, or if it doesn't sell and goes out to another trader, they won't do any of them because it will be sold as seen.

StaffsSW

droopsnoot wrote: »

I imagine their 114 point check will be done when someone buys the car, not when the dealer first receives it. Some things that they check may need doing again if it sits for a few weeks, or if it doesn't sell and goes out to another trader, they won't do any of them because it will be sold as seen.

The chances are that the car was used as a runabout for a few days by the dealer, before going to a central location for disposal through trade outlets - auctions, or regular traders that have a relationship with each of the main dealer group.

A lot of these outlets will only do the 144 point check once a sale looks likely - the margins are not great, so if the car doesn't sell, it'll be punted off through another auction, and any time spent on the checks will have been wasted.

rudekid48

Have you notified the AA that you no longer own the vehicle? If so, then the AA are in breach of the DPA for not deactivating the device (or the SIM to be precise). If you have not notified the AA then I'd check what the potential consequences of that are on your contract.

This could get very messy for someone if the new owner discovered that they were being tracked...

Jlawson118

rudekid48 wrote: »

Have you notified the AA that you no longer own the vehicle? If so, then the AA are in breach of the DPA for not deactivating the device (or the SIM to be precise). If you have not notified the AA then I'd check what the potential consequences of that are on your contract.

This could get very messy for someone if the new owner discovered that they were being tracked...

Nope I haven't contacted the AA. I terminated my breakdown cover with them in November and alerted them of this around September/October as I'd filed a complaint with them. They then did cancel my membership as planned. I assumed they'd cancelled the car genie too until I went onto it the other day. Otherwise I haven't even used the Genie since I cancelled my membership.

I'll contact them tomorrow

[Deleted User]

Used cars can end up being shifted to anywhere in the country depending what dealer has bought it for their target market etc.

For example my current car was originally registered and purchased new at a main dealer in Nottingham. Then a few years later it suddenly had a new owner in the North East. Then a few years later I buy it from a local trader who had bought it from that person locally.

All this from just looking through all the old service docs and invoices etc.

[Deleted User]

And offence for checking an AA Genie on your old car? Some folk are so melodramatic. As if anyone cares. The OP is not using the data for sinister purposes.

jimjames

AdrianC wrote: »

But you ARE using a computer system to access data to which you are not entitled.

It's their account, someone else is loading data to. Their own login and password. I can't see any offence when you've not hacked anything and have used your own details to log in