Buying in a growing UK and world economy

ruperts

westernpromise wrote: »

Exactly - if these people got a job (not hard, we have full employment) they wouldn't have to worry about their Giro being late, would they?

Maybe if we didn’t have a cuck government who spent billions buying power and gifting tax cuts to their billionaire bulls then we wouldn’t have to worry about pinching pennies from the less able in our society.

Why a commoner like you is on the side of the establishment god only knows. Do you think if you lick enough elite !!!! they’ll let you in the club or something? Delusional in the extreme.

triathlon

ruperts wrote: »

Maybe if we didn’t have a cuck government who spent billions buying power and gifting tax cuts to their billionaire bulls then we wouldn’t have to worry about pinching pennies from the less able in our society.

Why a commoner like you is on the side of the establishment god only knows. Do you think if you lick enough elite !!!! they’ll let you in the club or something? Delusional in the extreme.

But it's not like that on the whole and it's not really about what this board is about. You are basically just a low income lad who just wants to blame the world for it and try and get handouts from his betters, and get a house thrown in free as well.

You see it all the time on HPC, a site full of bitter low waged no hopers earning less than £30,000 thinking one day all the elite will just give up and hand over their homes to them for near to nothing.
Western comes out with a brilliant idea, but I would pack a load of British off as well for a several million swap with Poland, our economy would over take Japans.

Skeptical_Saver

triathlon wrote: »

You really want to read up on the subject of natural selection. Too many British people have become professional complainers and full of self entitlement, that's why so many voted Brexit I think. Eastern Europeans are wiling to work 50 hours plus without complaint and long faces, they are also even willing to house share, two families is not uncommon in one home, I have even seen three Polish families sharing and all of them working to pay the bills and of course the rent, not mine I must add.

The simple fact is rather than the British complaining like what I heard on the radio today about welfare payments being sent to them late or even stopped, they are just going to have to make cut backs, share or even try something radical like work and pay the rent with several friends to account for lowering wages.

And what you said about Brexit, do you really think that is going to happen. Pandora's box has now been opened, there is no way we are going to give up on this cheap quality labour which also plays a big part in keeping a healthy housing market.

So basically, you want eastern Europeans because they'll live in accommodation too small for the amount of people there and do long hours for unfairly less pay because it makes you a quick buck.

That, my friend, is called exploitation for personal gain.

Pay them a competitive, proper living wage and employ/train British citizens. People are people, not numbers for you to base your rent income on.

GreatApe

In a free market companies steel workers from each other and they do this primarily through better pay and conditions. The Lefty idea that the bosses screw their workers because they obviously hire only people who will make them more money than it will cost to hire them and thus they are stealing their excess production is stupid.

Workers can be self employed as millions are
Workers can move from company to company as millions do
Workers can start companies as millions do

One of the problems with the left is they don't realise the economy has moved on. We don't live in a world with a few mega corporations. The majority of people are either self employed or employed by tiny companies.

GreatApe

Skeptical_Saver wrote: »

So basically, you want eastern Europeans because they'll live in accommodation too small for the amount of people there and do long hours for unfairly less pay because it makes you a quick buck.

That, my friend, is called exploitation for personal gain.

Pay them a competitive, proper living wage and employ/train British citizens. People are people, not numbers for you to base your rent income on.

Who is being exploited?

The pole if they take the job does so willingly because that offer is better than his other job offers.
He is free in the future to change employer or become self employed or start his own business.
The employer is of course better off because he wouldn't be hiding someone I'd it was not in his interest.

Both the employee and the employer win

So what about our locals do they win or lose?
Well we have full employment in the UK we have had full employment for some time so the locals are not being displaced to unemployment

And given almost all UK bosses would hire a native of the same skill and experience and temperament over a migrant that they hire poles tells us one thing. That the native Brits have better opportunities.

Working at the council browsing the internet complaining about hard life in the UK is on forums sure beats having to tile a roof at 6am and 5 centigrade.

Generally most people in the UK like the poles because there is the perception that most of them work unlike some other migrant groups who don't work so much and complain that their benefits and conditions are beneath them.

https://youtu.be/vaVHTp2NKXw

ruperts

triathlon wrote: »

But it's not like that on the whole and it's not really about what this board is about. You are basically just a low income lad who just wants to blame the world for it and try and get handouts from his betters, and get a house thrown in free as well.

You see it all the time on HPC, a site full of bitter low waged no hopers earning less than £30,000 thinking one day all the elite will just give up and hand over their homes to them for near to nothing.
Western comes out with a brilliant idea, but I would pack a load of British off as well for a several million swap with Poland, our economy would over take Japans.

All you’ve done really in this post is prove how well the elite have brainwashed you. You know nothing about me but felt comfortable applying a predefined set of prejudices against me, almost as if you were reading from a script. The elite have armed you with that script and sent you out into the world as a preacher; a pawn; a foot soldier, all without you even realising.

For the record I don’t want any handouts, already have a house and earn more than £30k. So you were wrong in literally every assumption you made.

Keep fighting someone else’s battle though by all means, but don’t be surprised when there’s no reward for you at the end.

triathlon

Skeptical_Saver wrote: »

So basically, you want eastern Europeans because they'll live in accommodation too small for the amount of people there and do long hours for unfairly less pay because it makes you a quick buck.

That, my friend, is called exploitation for personal gain.

Pay them a competitive, proper living wage and employ/train British citizens. People are people, not numbers for you to base your rent income on.

Most British are just fine, they educate themselves and work hard. The problem is the sizeable minority of no hopers we now have here.

triathlon

"Pay them a competitive, proper living wage and employ/train British citizens. People are people, not numbers for you to base your rent income on."


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Yes they are, these people are just that, just a sizeable number of weak people who have to pay me monthly, that's just life mate, sooner you learn that the better and then you will not go through the whole of your life a victim

triathlon

"Who is being exploited?

The pole if they take the job does so willingly because that offer is better than his other job offers.
He is free in the future to change employer or become self employed or start his own business.
The employer is of course better off because he wouldn't be hiding someone I'd it was not in his interest.

Both the employee and the employer win"

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Not only are they NOT being exploited many of them are living the dream. I suggest some of you make more of an effort to make friends with them and find out the truth, great bunch of people. Many of them have wonderful homes back in Poland along with great lives when they are not working, they work hard and play hard.

I keep getting offered a free bed back in their homes towns, homes near lakes and close to forests and mountains, I really must take them up on some of these offers, place looks wonderful