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Installing a clothes rail in a cupboard help

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Hello all,
I have a cupboard that I would like to put a rail in so I can hang clothes there but I want to check something. I've watched some Youtube videos and they seem to screw the fittings into wooden battens that are around the inside of the cupboard. My cupboard doesn't have these but I'm wondering if I could still do it? Also if the battens are essential is that something a novice DIYer could do himself? :beer:
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  • Tom99
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    You need something like this. You can make your own end supports and use a broom stick if you are DIY minded.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/FMK-Wardrobe-hanging-rail-set/dp/B002EIEUZM/ref=sr_1_6/257-0650396-8510307?ie=UTF8&qid=1515431696&sr=8-6&keywords=clothes+rail+for+cupboard
  • -taff
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    Will your cupboard walls take the weight of a hanging rail full of clothes without extra support?
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  • pramsay13
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    What is inside your cupboard?
    Is it just plasterboard walls?
  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    AnotherJAM wrote: »
    Hello all,
    I have a cupboard that I would like to put a rail in so I can hang clothes there but I want to check something.

    bit more info needed a picture would help.

    what sort of cupboard.

    how long will the rail be.

    whats above the rail.
  • Thanks Tom. That's what I was planning on getting. I've seen the brackets and pole as a set in B&Q :)

    Pramsay, nothing. It's the sort of cupboard in the bedroom where you'd see an immersion heater but nothing inside just a box. :)

    Taff, that's what I'm worried about :/
  • Oh I mean a box as in nothing on the inside just bare.
  • missile
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    I did that, works very well. IMG_50941_zpshkym0soh.jpg
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  • Tom99
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    AnotherJAM wrote: »
    Thanks Tom. That's what I was planning on getting. I've seen the brackets and pole as a set in B&Q :)

    Pramsay, nothing. It's the sort of cupboard in the bedroom where you'd see an immersion heater but nothing inside just a box. :)

    Taff, that's what I'm worried about :/

    [FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]You can make a much sturdier end support by using a short length of wood say 30mm x 20mm x 100mm and drill a hole in the middle to take the rail then use 2 screws either side to fix the support to the side of the cupboard.[/FONT]
  • Ectophile
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    It all depends on what the walls are like. Fixing battens to the wall allows you to spread the load, and gives you something to screw into. You're expected to provide your own battens if there aren't any there.

    However, if the walls are solid enough, there's nothing to stop you using wall plugs and screwing the end caps straight to the wall, as in missile's picture. I did something very similar myself when I ran out of wardrobe space, and it hasn't fallen off the wall yet.
    If it sticks, force it.
    If it breaks, well it wasn't working right anyway.
  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    if you go into batons you don't need the end caps you just drill a hole the right size for the rail.

    A couple of decent plasterboard fixings to support each baton and it will hold a load of stuff.

    a couple of full width batons and you can pop a shelf on top.

    or if lucky on the width there may be something that will fit from a free/wall range of fittings that will make full use of the space.
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