Is this fraud

Feral_Moon

FBaby wrote: »

MS is one of those conditions that will affect people differently and at different times. Taking into consideration that PIP descriptors can be quite subjective when it comes to 'how often' and 'how severely', it isn't surprising that someone could have ticked the right boxes, covering them for three years, but then finding themselves that the drugs are actually helping so that they are able to do things they were not able to before.

I would love to know the statistics of people reporting that 'their symptoms have improved' during their entitlement. I would be less than 1%. At best people just wait until they are reassessed and accept the verdict if they are not entitled any longer.

Saying that, I do respect that with MS, it is difficult as you could have a relapse the moment you call to say you are better. Taking into account how long it takes to be reassessed, I expect investigating potential fraud in such cases is going to be the least of the priorities of the dwp.

Exactly!!

In the case of people suffering from such fluctuating conditions, would you be expected to phone the DWP and report that you're now feeling well enough to undertake tasks you previously claimed to be unable to do. When a week or even month or so later, you're likely to relapse and feel completely unwell again. Are you expected to have to reclaim benefits again? And then continue this yo-yo process for the rest of your life?

What a ridiculous state of affairs to be in.

Feral_Moon

Penitent wrote: »

He said:



You aren't declared unfit to work for DLA because it's not an out of work benefit, so he could only be referring to ESA. So assuming he's accurately reporting what the person said, there's a problem here.

I'm aware of permitted work, but if the person was doing permitted work and he'd cleared or was going to clear it with the DWP, why would he not want there to be an official record of him working?

Honestly, I do understand that conditions fluctuate. I'm mentally ill. I can't work at the moment, but I've been in and out of work when I've been able.

But if someone says "I can't have an official record of working because I'm claiming to be unfit for work", that's a pretty obvious sign that they're doing something they shouldn't be.

Somehow I'd missed the OPs response in post #16 so wasn't aware of the additional information in my replies. I can see now where discrepancies might occur in his claims and why some have challenged my own responses.