What could he be up to?

System

I would suspect he is intending to go back to court to force same of the house saying children are now old enough.

Surely a birth certificate would suffice...they are easy enough to obtain.

peachyprice

The only thing I can think of is housing, he would need a utility in the ex wife's name to show she is still living at the house and children's birth certs/passports to prove he is their father and 'needs bedrooms' for them. Could be social housing although you said he'd never do that but maybe his new partners would, or a help to buy scheme, or a second mortgage.

He would be mad to waste money going back to court to get the house sold when the children are early teens and still in full-time education, not going to happen and he wouldn't need birth certs or passports for that as the court would already have details of the children'd DoB's.

SmarterNotHarder

swingaloo wrote: »

The children don't even get Xmas or birthday presents and he has already said they will never see a penny from him.

Even if that was the case why would he need a utility bill to show she was paying the bills at the property?

swingaloo wrote: »

Just to answer some of the posts above-

The mortgage on the house my friend lives in is in her ex's name only so if he were to re-mortgage she would not be involved. The mortgage company would not be able to speak to her for this reason. There is very little equity in the property.

He lives in a rented property and has 4 more children. He is very much a snob and would not consider a council house if he was offered one rent free.

He is a very high earner and besides the mortgage on the marital home and maintenance he is also paying 1500 a month rent. He may well have money issues though as he has always lived above his means and likes to appear as a 'well to do man of the world'. The reality is far different.

He has definitely not lost his job and he is paying maintenance on time.

Just reading through this thread, and I have no idea why he'd want those documents, and I agree that it doesn't sound completely legit, but I'm confused by the above?

He said the kids will never see a penny off him even though he's paying the mortgage and paying child maintenance? Although he has a beneficial interest in the property, his ex wife may have a claim on it as it appears they were married for some time. It doesn't actually matter that her name isn't on the mortgage.

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swingaloo wrote: »

Recently he sent a message asking her to let him have a photocopy of a utility bill showing her name for the address of the family home.

He probably just wants to check that you are on the cheapest electricity tariff...

thorsoak

Why not just tell him "NO - I don't trust you"!

Detroit

He could be trying to claim a means tested benefit and be encountering difficulties due to his ownership of the house your friend lives in being treated as his capital, thus rendering him ineligible.
He may be trying to prove an ex partner and dependent children live there in order for the property to be disregarded as capital.
His secrecy could be embarrassment about claiming benefits.

swingaloo

Ok, just time for an update-

Just to answer a few points. My friend cant apply to his work or pop in as he works over 200 miles away and she does not know the company.

He is still insisting that it is for his job as he is applying for a higher position.

Its definitely nothing to do with benefits as his income is far too high to make that feasible.

He has a family with his second wife and although he pays maintenance to my friend he has no interest in any other way in his first children, he says everything will go to his second family should he die.

There is a court order in place and when the time comes that they sell the house the percentage is already agreed.


As yet its stalemate, she is asking for more info and something from him to prove why he wants what he is asking for and he is refusing to give anymore info so as yet no progress.

Mojisola

swingaloo wrote: »

As yet its stalemate, she is asking for more info and something from him to prove why he wants what he is asking for and he is refusing to give anymore info so as yet no progress.

He's the one who wants the stuff - if he isn't willing to co-operate with more information, he won't get it.

If it's that important to him, he'll give more details.

AylesburyDuck

Mojisola wrote: »

He's the one who wants the stuff - if he isn't willing to co-operate with more information, he won't get it.

If it's that important to him, he'll give more details.

This with bells on, she's not the one being unreasonable, but he is the one that desperately needs the info so the balls in his court.

barbiedoll

He may not want to leave an inheritance for his children but is there anyone else in his family who may have done so? (Grandparents maybe?)

It could explain why he needs the passports and birth certificate copies. Especially if he’s thinking of collecting it so that his first family won’t benefit. Could also maybe explain why he needs a copy of a utility bill with the children’s address and the name of their mother?

My (half) sister had a small inheritance from her paternal grandparents. Despite her father knowing where she lived, he made no attempt to let her know and would have been quite happy to take it from her. His brother-in-law actually tracked my sister down, so she did finally get her money and she had to go to a solicitors office with proof of I.D. to get a cheque.