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  • Crabapple
    Crabapple Posts: 1,573 Forumite
    Cross posted with OP -if you were asked to sign the sale documents it would suggest they owned as tenants in commmon and s co-trustee was required.

    You really need to check this with the solicitors who dealt with the sale.
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  • Lgas
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    Thank you, I will pass this information to my mum to find out, as the sale has not completed yet, and I will call Harrington Brooks on Tuesday, as she’s not coping so well with it all.
  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    The will has been released

    Have you handed over the administration to the solicitors?
  • Lgas wrote: »
    I’m not sure of the difference..all I know is they jointly owned the land and property together, and as executor I was asked to sign the sale documents as the land must still be in 2 names and i’m a beneficiary? The will has been released and solicitors have been dealing with the land sale, would they not have brought it up if she wasn’t able to sell the land?
    They certainly shoud have done. The solicitor needs to told immediately about the debt and they should also be asked about the implications of the various things such as the mortgae.
  • The debts will need to be paid out of the estate, so the sale of the house and land if there is equity, which I am guessing given that there is only 97k outstanding on such a large property and land there will be? It is possible that the creditors will take reduced amounts of full and final settlements of the debts. You need to contact Harrington Brooks and send a copy of the death certificate. Once they have this they are free to talk to you without breaching any data protection, so they can discuss all the options. I would tell your Mum to presume that approx 40k of the money is earmarked for the debts for now, and seek advice from Harrington Brooks as to the options, and whether full and final settlements can be agreed with the creditors.
  • Keep_pedalling
    Keep_pedalling Posts: 22,759 Forumite
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    edited 31 December 2017 at 12:58PM
    This estate sounds far from insolvent. You say you are a beneficiary which would suggest your father held held some of this property either outright or as tenants in common. If that is the case then after funeral costs the creditors have first call on those.

    You should not proceed with this sale until you have established the actual position of ownership. As executor you can be held responsible for these debts if you do not wind up the estate in a proper manner. I would strongly advise you to take professional advice on how to proceed from here on.
  • Lgas
    Lgas Posts: 365 Forumite
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    Thank you all, this sounds much more complicated than expected. My mum has just checked and all deeds are in both of their names if that helps? There should be enough after debts to pay off the mortgage and buy another property outright at least. I will find out about the solicitors dealing with the will, my eldest brother dealt with a lot of the finances and paperwork so he should know more than both of us.
  • Lgas wrote: »
    Thank you all, this sounds much more complicated than expected. My mum has just checked and all deeds are in both of their names if that helps? There should be enough after debts to pay off the mortgage and buy another property outright at least. I will find out about the solicitors dealing with the will, my eldest brother dealt with a lot of the finances and paperwork so he should know more than both of us.

    Jointly held property can be held two ways. We own our house as joint tenants, which means after one of us dies the other will own it outright automatically. If your father has left a share of the properties to you and your brother then your mother and father should have held their properties as tenants in common, which means each holds a specific percentage of the property, typically 50/50.
  • The OP and hjis mum need to consult a solicitor BEFORE discussing anything with a debtor.
  • The OP and hjis mum need to consult a solicitor BEFORE discussing anything with a debtor.

    Agreed, although as executors the OP and his/her brother need to deal with this, and keep the grieving widow from worrying about the details as much as possible.
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